Haha yeah it pretty mental. Making the odd daft post, missreading something and that is one thing. Continually barrelling forward about complete nonsense is mental from about 4 posters total.
I got my figures other day a little messed up by like 5% on something was ah my bad and someone went all in about it which was daft. But yeah.
There are a few things right now that hold true regardless of brand
- Intel currently have the highest performance chips for desktop and have since the 12 series dropped
- Their price to performance at a good few levels is better than AMD currently
- Intel though are competing against 14month old products right now
- AMD only has one chip that is coming in 3-6 months to compete with current situation and without a price drop will remain more expensive as someone looking for a build in current climate
- Dates suggested are all 2022 with nobody needing to keep peddling that oh it will be delayed with no evidence to support that at all and litereal engineer samples already floating about 10months ahead.
- Pulling the 5800x3D is best is irrelevant without any true data so don't keep saying it is now gaming King when you can't see it or get it for a good few month.
- AMD support 5000 series from at least 400 series boards or randomly the A320 series with possibility to get the B3XX and X3XX boards possibly getting updated in near future
Those are all the things as a community it really comes too that I can think of. Anyone saying or push anything different to those points I don't understand.
Good points, all accurate, though not what many want to hear.
I feel the tide has changed in the CPU scene, AMD woke Intel the sleeping giant. As a result, Intel have been executing at a greatly renewed pace with two new architectures launching in 2021 (Rocket Lake, Alderlake) and are set to release Raptor Lake this year.
Clearly Intel '7' process (10nm) is now working very well, as we're seeing mass availability of the CPU's, and performance is good. Intel having their own fabs means they have a huge advantage when it comes to supply/demand.
That said things can change in 2022, it all depends on timing and performance of unreleased parts.
Zen3 refresh - pretty boring to only have a refresh coming in "spring" - same old Zen3 architecture. Was dissapointed to learn it's limited to 8 core parts, as it won't be able to complete with the 12900k in many workloads as a result of this. Also unlikely it will match 12900k @ 5.5Ghz/12900KS. Can't see many 5950X owners down grading to lose 8 cores.
Zen4 - "On track for 2H 2022". This is a very wide goalpost, which can obviously change. Timing is key, lets hope it's earlier in the year rather than later. Performance wise - it needs to be a monster as it'll be competing against 13th gen Raptor Lake most likely. Raptor Lake will be a 24core part, with increased IPC, improved cache, improved architecture. Zen4 needs to be amazing - nothing less than 30% IPC over Zen 3 will do it IMO.