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I don't remember having RE aged 6, when I did get RE I was old enough to know it was ********.
Religious School Visits
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Soldato
when I was at school we had RE lessons and we were taught about the main stream religions at the time
Christianity
Hinduism
Judaism
Islam Budhism
It gave me a balanced view, the understanding I came to is they were all equally full of crap.
Providing the RE curiculum at the school teaches about all the main religions equally I think its ok. Bearing in mind I went to an RC school also and they were pretty good at teaching us about all the main ones equally. Even the examination covered all the major religions and were not skewed in favour of Christianity.
Christianity
Hinduism
Judaism
Islam Budhism
It gave me a balanced view, the understanding I came to is they were all equally full of crap.
Providing the RE curiculum at the school teaches about all the main religions equally I think its ok. Bearing in mind I went to an RC school also and they were pretty good at teaching us about all the main ones equally. Even the examination covered all the major religions and were not skewed in favour of Christianity.
This claptrap again. Even if it is, that doesn't mean religion should be taught during school hours, the place where kids should be going to get an education, not fairy tale lessons. Optional RE at GCSE and optional afterschool classes for all ages are enough. Forcing the education of religion during normal school hours has done absolutely nothing to help in the slightest over the last however many decades other than taking away classroom time for real subjects with value.
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Don't celebrate Christmas then and confuse the poor soul.
Soldato
I don't get what you mean?
See, even now the religious folks cannot say this without throwing in the old guilt vibe
How is what I stated, throwing in the old guilt vibe?
Hatefilled? Violent?
Let's concentrate on Jesus, Gods son, who came to earth, healed and helped all people (Including ones the Jews would not associate with.) and went to his death on the cross. Even admonishing people who wanted to fight for him to prevent this.
To put it one way, he never harmed a fly and did only good.
He even gave new instuctions on the old way of an eye for eye, a life for a life thing. He taught us to love our enemies, to forgive and to turn the other cheek. Something that is not naturally in our nature to do and requires help from God to acheive. I have failed in this like our nation.
Soldato
Thankfully, yes.
Soldato
I cannot remember having RE lessons before comprehensive. I'm only 19.
I think you dodged a bullet there. I've heard some seriously worrying things about Steiner schools. They seem to be against things like modern medicine whilst promoting the idea that gnomes are real.
Not sure if trolling...
Big +1.
Soldato
ok
No he's not
No he didn't
no he didn't
He was clearly Mexican with that name.
Soldato
You can't "concentrate on Jesus" (who wasn't always peace loving, Luke 22:36, Revelation 2:22-23, Matthew 10:34). Christianity is more than just Jesus. It's Holy book, the Bible, is its most important feature. Jesus is just gods champion.
The God portrayed in Bible is vengeful, violent and jealous. You can't really debate that, it is right their in the book. Especially the old testament.
And, they laws of the old testament have not been rescinded.
Luke 16:17
Matthew 5:17
John 7:19
Soldato
Yes. the best thing for all concerned is for another entire generation of people to have no knowledge at all of a large population of the UK that already feel marginalised.
That is the way to solve our current problems with racial tension. Definitely.
When Jesus returns there will be an Armaggedon right? How peaceful.
Why not teach the part of the bible under the Deuteronomy section that sates in the New International Version:
If you have a rebelious child, you will drag him out before the village elders and claim 'this, my son is a drunkard, fool, and a glutton', and then the entire village will stone him to death.
Or something very similar to those words.
Why not teach the part of the bible under the Deuteronomy section that sates in the New International Version:
If you have a rebelious child, you will drag him out before the village elders and claim 'this, my son is a drunkard, fool, and a glutton', and then the entire village will stone him to death.
Or something very similar to those words.
Soldato
I completely disagree. RE is a very important subject as it helps children know about other religions. It helps them understand why Bob wears a turban, or Cindy wears a headscarf. It is important to realise what others believe. If you can't do that, then you just create misunderstanding which then goes on to intolerance. This ofcourse all depends on RE being taught correctly. It should be taught in a way that simply presents and explains information, it should always provide contrast and most certainly must not try to preach or convert children.
As for what is taught, it depends on the local area. If it is an islamic area, more islam will be taught than in a christian area. The local religious groups have a meeting to discuss the RE syllabus every few years and have an input on what is taught.
Soldato
Forgetting the rest of what you said.
I would say Jesus was always loving. As I said earlier, he lead by example by not even harming a fly and only doing good.
Luke 22:36 intrigues me as I do not know why Jesus asked them to get swords, maybe to display his stance and power in hindsight of what happened further in the passage Luke 22:49-51.
No he will not be coming in Peace when he returns that is true, regarding the other two quotes there. That is talking of his return though and not the example he gave us on earth.
The Lord God portrayed in the Bible is also gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. Good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
No you're right they are not. I was trying to emphasize the teaching of Jesus over the way the Jews had been doing things. Being to patiently suffer wrong doing, even unto death and thus thwarting the progression of any spirit of hatred and strife.
Turbans and Headscarves are cultural, not religious. Religion is not mutually exclusive with the clothes a person wears.
Also in all my years of RE, what people of different religions wear was never a topic. We did however have to draw what we thought a Theist, Atheist and Agnostic looked like, and almost everyone in the class portrayed atheists as being punks or devils.
RE serves little to no purpose in increasing tolerance, its a joke subject that most kids wont even take seriously.
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Forgetting the rest of what you said.
I would say Jesus was always loving. As I said earlier, he lead by example by not even harming a fly and only doing good.
Luke 22:36 intrigues me as I do not know why Jesus asked them to get swords, maybe to display his stance and power in hindsight of what happened further in the passage Luke 22:49-51.
No he will not be coming in Peace when he returns that is true, regarding the other two quotes there. That is talking of his return though and not the example he gave us on earth.
The Lord God portrayed in the Bible is also gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. Good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
No you're right they are not. I was trying to emphasize the teaching of Jesus over the way the Jews had been doing things. Being to patiently suffer wrong doing, even unto death and thus thwarting the progression of any spirit of hatred and strife.
Please stop with the nonsense. The threads about religion in schools not your opinion on the bible.
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So what is he going to be doing?
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I'd have to say my RE in Primary and Secondary school seemed rather balanced, I didn't feel like I was being forced one way or the other.
That said, I was young in Primary, so I could be recalling wrong.
Only thing about religious education I can agree with in school is tolerance of them with their diversities and an understanding of them (Which is what I felt I got from my secondary school RE)
Atheist myself.
That said, I was young in Primary, so I could be recalling wrong.
Only thing about religious education I can agree with in school is tolerance of them with their diversities and an understanding of them (Which is what I felt I got from my secondary school RE)
Atheist myself.