Religious School Visits

We had RE in High School in South Africa, and we were not taught a single thing about any religion other than Christianity (the teacher was a proper Jesus freak). It was a complete waste of a lesson and money.

On a related note, I don't believe we were actually taught about evolution in Biology, we just learned the basic stuff about how plants work. What a terrible curriculum.
 
The whole way through school I protested about being taught RE. However I still attended the lessons, and contributed to discussion (to the dislike of the religiously obsessed teacher.)
It came to the exam and I just sat there, cheated myself out of a cheap easy grade but it was worth it to see the anger in her face.
 
bhavv said:
No need to increase PE, we already had 2 hours of that per week and most schools will run sports classes after school.

Actually regular IT should be beefed up from the dos subject it currently is to include the more advanced stuff like you mention, and Music which is currently way too pointless and includes too much theory and pointless talking should have Pro Tools + music production stuff added to it.

I think that the only way to properly learn music production is a Music Tech Btec / HND, and most people are obviously not going to do those, so to add production to Music classes around age 12+ would help introduce teens to something technical, fun and rewarding.

Just how computer programming is way too inaccessible until A levels for most students, and too many schools dont even run Computing and just do ICT instead. In my 6th form I took ICT AS, but in the first week the lecturer asked us if we wanted to do ICT or Computing and 100% of the class wanted computing lol. Unfortunately I turned out to be too rubbish at maths and programming, but I could have done Music Tech really well instead :(
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To be honest, in this day and age it shouldn't be too hard to read a child until say, year 9, and then start discussing with them what they want to do in life (with suggestions based off the research). Then you can gear them towards a bunch of classes that suits them, and start offering proper classes, get rid of Citizenship and R.E. as compulsory (allow full support for extra curricular activities, though) as no average person will ever use what they get taught, and replace them with vehicle mechanics, advanced IT, graphic design etc.

Music and Art are important though, because they can teach a lot about other things in ways you'd never expect. Although in the grand scheme of things I can't sit here and honestly say I've used anything I was taught in school, all of the skills I rely on are natural, self taught, or taught in College. Even my maths was self taught before heading to secondary school as I spent the majority of my nursery/middle school time catching pokémon and drawing random ****.
 
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So teach him yourself... Did you know that it's really easy to knock down religious arguments?

It's a perfect time to teach him to be sceptical and to not be afraid to ask questions and to disagree with people, and to reserve judgement until he knows more of the facts.
 
RationalGaze said:
On a related note, I don't believe we were actually taught about evolution in Biology, we just learned the basic stuff about how plants work. What a terrible curriculum.
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Evolution isnt taught until A Level Biology and then in much more depth at degree level. Even then, its one of hardest areas of Biology to specialize in because there arent many places that run it.

This would explain why a lot of scientifically challenged people think evolution is a load of 'humans came from monkeys' hogwash.

jmc007 said:
though surely if the knowledge taught is unbiased and for the right reason, (i.e. To share some of the history of Gods involvement in this planet.) then it can be nothing but good
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Even if religion is taught well, in a good way and covers lots of good things about every religion, it still remains a complete waste of classroom time and there are far too many more important subjects that should be taught instead.
 
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jmc007 said:
I can't beat EDDS's answer for comedy, though for the truth read Mat 13:37-42.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;.....And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth

t.b.h. I do not know what he will be doing, though apparently we get a period of one thousand years of peace on earth afterwards. Rev 20:4
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You cannot be serious?

Stop trying to force your religious rubbish on people.

Keep your beliefs to yourself, nobody's interested.
 
Angilion said:
According to your own bible, yes. I urge everyone to read all of the Christian bible. It's a real eye-opener.
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I've never understood how an all-loving god can be so damn threatening to all of his own creation.

I'm agnostic. I don't know if there is or isn't a higher power, let alone which one of them is the real one if so. I am INCAPABLE and UNABLE to believe in the in the existence of god.

I'm not choosing not to believe, I just lack the required amount of evidence and proof for me to actually believe it. It's not something I can actually change, short of god popping his head out of the clouds with a "Wassup?".

As such though, I am doomed to burn for all eternity, regardless of the fact that most of his requirements (beyond believing in and worshiping him) I do meet. I honour my parents, don't kill, steal, etc. But someone who 'believes', sins, but then repents, is still better in his eyes.

If he does exist, he is mean, hypocritical, egotistical, and all the things I dislike about the kinds of people I don't associate myself with.
 
@jmc007

A scientist will read dozens of books in their lifetime, but still believe that they have a lot more to learn. A religious person barely reads one book, and think that they know it all.
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I'm all for belief and my belief is that the hairy guy in the sky isnt real, you sound brainwashed.
 
One thing I have to ask about religion is how da **** did this ... thing ... get an elephants head and 4 arms?

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Like, I dont even .... Can any RE teacher explain? Oh right, no not a single one can, ergo pointless subject.
 
jmc007 said:
t.b.h. I do not know what he will be doing, though apparently we get a period of one thousand years of peace on earth afterwards. Rev 20:4
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i hope he comes soon! :p

this is going to get locked!

on topic, our RE was not too bad, learnt a few things, but not much, everyone got C on the RE GCSE paper, no matter what was written!
 
Omaeka said:
T get rid of Citizenship and R.E. as compulsory (allow full support for extra curricular activities, though)
Music and Art are important though, because they can teach a lot about other things in ways you'd never expect.
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What does a Citizenship class involve? What do you learn?

The trouble with extra curricular activities is getting the people to run them. Teachers are hard pressed without huge amounts of free time (no matter what some will want to tell us) and for them to give over their precious free time to run extra curricular activities is a big ask.

Art is a total waste of time, and there's no reason it should be compulsory after 2nd year. It teaches you nothing, it's just a jolly. For those who want to do it, then it should be offered but totally redundant to make it compulsory.
 
al4x said:
i hope he comes soon! :p
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Behold, I am coming soon! .... hhhyyyynnnnngggghhhhh

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Submit yourselves for the lords sake to every authority instituted among men. Slaves submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. Wives in the same way be submissive to your husbands.
 
steve-h said:
So teach him yourself... Did you know that it's really easy to knock down religious arguments?

It's a perfect time to teach him to be sceptical and to not be afraid to ask questions and to disagree with people, and to reserve judgement until he knows more of the facts.
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Indeed, equip him with the critical thinking skills now that any religious person has to lack to believe in such nonsense. Bonus points if you get your kid to ask about many of the nonsensical Christian flaws that are glossed over by today's modern brainwashed idiot Christians.
 
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