Soldato
- Joined
- 1 Apr 2010
- Posts
- 3,034
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
Replacing a failing i7-4790k 4GHz... Intel or AMD?
- Thread starter Loony BoB
- Start date
Man, I wish I had the kind of money to throw around to upgrade my 980.But it's not faulty and not giving me issues so far, so it shall stay on for now.
I'm not sure in what way your 4790k is failing, but if it's just temps that can be solved by delidding, which will cost you about £8 for some liquid metal TIM.
In terms of gaming performance, the £500 you are allocating to a CPU sidegrade would get you far more if spent on a GPU
Temps seem fine, especially for the 4790k which I understand runs hot and is really happy even at a relatively high temp. The CPU and/or MB are the issue but it's not temperature related as far as I can tell. Feel free to read the last 40 posts or so and the previous thread I made about the fault diagnosis you want background details, but upgrading a GPU would be pointless if I retained a CPU and/or MB that was dying fast.
After reading the posts again it sounds just like the issue I had with my Gigabyte board. I honestly think you can get a H97 LGA 1150 mobo and it will do just fine. Then upgrade the GPU and it will last a few more years until games start using 6+ cores.
I've found multiple accounts and it was a different solution for each individual, which is why I'm so wary. =/ Two pinpointed the PSU to success, one pinpointed the CPU, one (now two, with you) pinpointed the GPU. Some got lucky and discovered it was the RAM. Honestly it looks like the codes for the board are just a "well something's ******" error.
Do you have anything you can swap out?
E.g. if it's ram it's unlikely to be all 4 sticks, try one at a time and see if any work, if not, ram is fine.
If you have another CPU you can try in it, that might narrow it down, etc.
If you can save £500 on a sidegrade, that's £500 you could spend on an upgrade!
Perhaps there is someone you know you can try swapping bits with to test? Hell maybe one of us is conveniently near you
E.g. if it's ram it's unlikely to be all 4 sticks, try one at a time and see if any work, if not, ram is fine.
If you have another CPU you can try in it, that might narrow it down, etc.
If you can save £500 on a sidegrade, that's £500 you could spend on an upgrade!
Perhaps there is someone you know you can try swapping bits with to test? Hell maybe one of us is conveniently near you
Sadly my other CPU is a 1151 so I wasn't able to switch them around!
Checked eBay for recent (July & August) selling prices and this overall should cost me around £130 for the entire swap after I sell off my refurb parts once they are back from manufacturers, so I'm not as heavily bothered as I once was. Discovered I even still have the untouched i7-4790k cooler and box in stock too, nice. Going for it, and will look into GPU later on in the year if I ever feel like it. 980 is more than enough for gaming so far, so I'm okay.
Checked eBay for recent (July & August) selling prices and this overall should cost me around £130 for the entire swap after I sell off my refurb parts once they are back from manufacturers, so I'm not as heavily bothered as I once was. Discovered I even still have the untouched i7-4790k cooler and box in stock too, nice.
Going for it, and will look into GPU later on in the year if I ever feel like it. 980 is more than enough for gaming so far, so I'm okay. Don't fret, my RAM was £120 3 years ago.
Yeh, and RAM for my first PC in 1990 was £30 per MB, so 16GB would cost you £26000 in today's money
Associate
- Joined
- 21 Apr 2016
- Posts
- 1,967
- Location
- Oh Canada!
It's a hex core that definitely pulls ahead of your current CPU in heavily multithreaded workloads, and is better for multitasking (playing overwatch while streaming it and watching netflix on your second screen while you do some other junk in the background for example).
There are two downsides to Ryzen. The obvious upshot is the value for your money. Downsides are that most things are still Intel optimized, also that they don't overclock well. 4Ghz is roughly the limit with Ryzen. Sometimes not even that. Meanwhile Kaby Lake can hit darn near 5Ghz. IPC is very similar.
@mistersprinkles just out of interest what OC are you getting on your 4790k on the ASROCK Z97 Anniversary mobo? Im thinking of getting one on the cheap as I can't overclock on my H97 mobo.
Soldato
- Joined
- 7 Dec 2015
- Posts
- 3,043
Yeh, and RAM for my first PC in 1990 was £30 per MB, so 16GB would cost you £26000 in today's money
Shouldn't it be £30*16*1024=£491520 without inflation rates, and even more with inflation rates? £491,520.00 in 1990 is equivalent to £914,855.54 in 2017.
Go with Intel, they have a far more reliable platform than AMD IMO.
Never seen so many issues with RAM compatibility before. Every internet forum regarding PC hardware have hundreds of posts about RAM issues for Ryzen.
Makes me wonder where all this false hype regarding AMD & Ryzen is coming from.
Never seen so many issues with RAM compatibility before. Every internet forum regarding PC hardware have hundreds of posts about RAM issues for Ryzen.
Makes me wonder where all this false hype regarding AMD & Ryzen is coming from.
Soldato
- Joined
- 16 May 2007
- Posts
- 3,221
It is a bit confusing compared to intel. If you buy Samsung b die based ram it works well for ryzen. Hynix based ram does not perform as well.
Associate
- Joined
- 21 Oct 2012
- Posts
- 2,332
This.
Especially seeing as no overclocking is intended. You can get some top quality B350 boards for Ryzen in the £100 price range. No need to go up to £150-200.
You can get a motherboard for £100
1600X and a decent air cooler for £250
DDR4 though you're looking at £150
So there's £500 on the build