replacing old Overclockers built gaming pc

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Hello All,

4 years ago almost to the day i ordered a computer from Overclockers, customized to what i wanted and could afford at the time.


Fast forward 4 years and have a slightly bigger budget but no matter which pre-set i go to, i can never customize any of them into the items i actually want...

I'm hoping Overclockers.co.uk can build the below as they did such a phenomanal job last time and sorted all and any RMA issues with no questions asked. Even threw in some spares!! All items sourced from Overclockers.co.uk

Firstly, if anybody can improve on the below whilst keeping the hardware costs under £3,000 i am open to ideas.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £3,186.09 (includes shipping: £14.70)​
 
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depends what you mean by 'improve'. You could certainly save money on the above, depending on what you'll be using the pc for.

For example, you haven't said what you'll be using the pc for, so I don't know if you 'need' a 3900x. If it's mainly for gaming, perhaps a 3600x is sufficient? Also, i don't know much about high end gpu's but you haven't said what resolution you'll be gaming at, so I don't know if you'll be getting the most from that gpu. Also, unless you specifically want the m2 samsung hd, you'll likely get a 1 tb m2 drive for less. Other thing is the motherboard. Unless you specifically need the features that motherboard has, there are cheaper alternatives. Cheaper, but still very good, power supplies are available. ps, thermal paste i'd expect to come with an after market cooler so you might not need that.

In short, for people to suggest improvements, you'll need to say what you'll be using the pc for and at what resolution ;)
 
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most of the stuff in the spec are poor value
/waste of £3200 if you ask me
for that kind of budget one could spec a threadripper build lol
 
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depends what you mean by 'improve'. You could certainly save money on the above, depending on what you'll be using the pc for.

For example, you haven't said what you'll be using the pc for, so I don't know if you 'need' a 3900x. If it's mainly for gaming, perhaps a 3600x is sufficient? Also, i don't know much about high end gpu's but you haven't said what resolution you'll be gaming at, so I don't know if you'll be getting the most from that gpu. Also, unless you specifically want the m2 samsung hd, you'll likely get a 1 tb m2 drive for less. Other thing is the motherboard. Unless you specifically need the features that motherboard has, there are cheaper alternatives. Cheaper, but still very good, power supplies are available. ps, thermal paste i'd expect to come with an after market cooler so you might not need that.

In short, for people to suggest improvements, you'll need to say what you'll be using the pc for and at what resolution ;)

Thanks for the feedback, probably should have broken it down as to why ive selected certain parts and the function of the machine.

In terms of what i will be using it for, by trade i am a lighting designer and emergency specialist, so i carry out a lot of design work on major projects around the UK. Although my employer provides me with a good laptop, i tend to just remote access that unit and use my own system to do what i need. Partly out of convineance and partly because my own rig has always and will always out perform whatever my employer gives me.

Part of my role involves Dialux rendering from lighting designs and when working on projects such as London Stadium, Riverside Stadium and so forth, being able to render quickly saves me a lot of time. On occassion my projects can run anywhere upwards of 1gb to 20gb.

Outside of proffessional requirements, i like to game, i run my existing rig as a "wake-on-lan/magic packet" Plex server as and when i need to either add content or watch content remotely. (i travel a lot for my job so being able to tap into my system is a must, whether its for setting tasks to run or whether its to access my own Plex server). It is likely thou, my current rig will be butchered for parts and i will convert what i have into a mini/micro atx build and low profile psu, then set as a dedicated NAS for Plex.

So, the summary..

The M.2 drivers are a must, the 500gb is for OS install and major application installs (not games). The 1TB M2 is purely for game installs as i have an existing 2TB SSD (Samsung 970 Evo 2.5") that ill use for project storage when it's not on the cloud. I am sticking with Samsung because ive never had one of their SSD drives fail, so a bit of consumer loyalty in that respect.

I considered the 3900x, but given that £3000 is what i intend to spend, the jump from 3600x to 3900x seem the best value for money vs alternative options. I have no interest in going intel this time around despite how stable my i7 -6700 has been the last 4 years.

The CASE i'm willing to change. Aesthetically i like the Case, however with the case, if a Tempered Glass finish case WITH USB 3.2 Type C at the FRONT is available, i'd bite your arm off for it as i use an Oculus Quest via Oculus Link.

Memory - G.Skill, Corsair etc.. don't mind brand as long as its DDR4 & above 3200 but below 3600 as i believe thats somewhat the sweet spot and where you get diminished returns on performance. Happy to be corrected on this. Picked the RGB not because i like RGB systems but the lux provided by the ram/gpu/cpu cooler will provide enough accent lighting through the tinted tempered glass to be subtle and discreet but still a little stylish and "fun".

The GPU is negotiable, but it will remain non-water cooled, i do not plan to OC it and it needs to be a 2080 ti. It's the brand i am willing to change. My existing Zotact 980ti Amp Extreme has been solid, as has my whole build so would consider a Zotac again. I went with the Strix purely because of the fanfare, clock speeds and it's a Strix, so would match the mobo.

The Mobo i require certain features from, especially Wifi 6 and Bluetooth. Reason being, USB sockets are a premium with all the devices i have connected so having the bluetooth built in its a god send and also means i don't need to go and get a PCI Wireless card like ive currently got in my existing machine. I understand the MSI MEG fills this criteria, but again, Strix GPU, Strix Mobo... side by side it looked like the Asus had more features (debatable whether needed or not!?!?!) and has really good Bios support. I didnt get the same impression from the MSI MEG.

PSU - As long as it's modular and will cater to the "potential" of SLI at a later date then that's what matters. The quieter the better with the Corsair getting some solid reviews at various outlets. May drop down to the 750w 80+ Plat. Happy to change brand for the same perfromance and low decibal, has to be modular.

Lastly, resolution is 6000 x 1440 split across two monitors, first being my Dell 34" Ultrawide 60hz 8ms. Not great for FPS gaming but for working and haveing digital real-estate, it does a great job. My side monitor is a 2560 x 1440 Dell 27" 144hz G-Sync. This is usually the monitor i game on. Don't think i need to upgrade monitors but certainlly need a GPU with enough juice to play current and games over the next 3-5 years at a high level.

It's worth noting that although i do like a good bargain, i'm not here to save money, i'd prefer to get the best bang-for-buck for £3000.

Thanks again for your response.
 
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most of the stuff in the spec are poor value
/waste of £3200 if you ask me
for that kind of budget one could spec a threadripper build lol

1. you have no idea of the intended use of this machine.
2. nobody needs a threadripper, it's luxary at best.
3. think many would argue about some of these spec'd items being poor value, especially when value is subjective.

thanks all the same for your suggestions on alternative products and actual technical reasons as to why you have made your statements.

/s
 
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1. you have no idea of the intended use of this machine.
2. nobody needs a threadripper, it's luxary at best.
3. think many would argue about some of these spec'd items being poor value, especially when value is subjective.

thanks all the same for your suggestions on alternative products and actual technical reasons as to why you have made your statements.

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i'd prefer to get the best bang-for-buck for £3000.
1. you're right i don't - but i inferred from the specs that you'd probably need it for something compute intensive - your post confirms it :)
2 +3. if someone said you could get a 24c workstation processor with 40 pcie lanes with quad channel memory, rather than a 12c desktop rated cpu with only 24pcie lanes...
...you know to actually run both the gpu AND all your ssds at is rated speeds...instead of /s, i'd probably be asking how this can be done.

£400 for double the core count


you're welcome :)
 
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DDR4-3600 MHz is the sweet spot for Ryzen.

I'm a fan of air coolers over AIO coolers as they're generally quieter so I suggest the Dark Rock Pro cooler or the Noctua DH series.

With regards to the GPU, Zotac is a good choice as they have UK RMA.
I would choose one large M.2 drive over two small ones as they use valuable PCIe lanes. BTW you've chosen v3 drives whereas the motherboard supports v4. If you really want two drives, then Threadripper beckons.

Dialux software appears to make use of up to 8 cores from their FAQ, so a 3900 or better is a good choice.

SLI is a thing of the past, unfortunately, so there's no need for a 850W PSU on a Ryzen desktop - a 550W PSU will do fine unless you run your GPUs separately, perhaps passing through one GPU to one VM and the other to another. Or massive overclocking.
 
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Do take a look at the RTX 2080 Super cards as they give 90% of the performance of the Ti at 60%-70% of the cost. Plus it won't be such a hit on your wallet when you replace it with an Ampere GPU later this year.
 
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Threadripper build with 2080 Super and PCIe v4 NVME drives


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £3,471.05 (includes shipping: £13.20)​


Ryzen build with 2080 Super and PCIe v4 NVME drives

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,477.20 (includes shipping: £12.30)​
 
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