Right to a parking space

[fez]

We have just moved into a new area and the parking is awful. Its next to a station and theres a dentists on the road and loads of people have dropped curbs so its basically ****. We only have a single car so its not the end of the world but I was just wondering, what kind of retarded logic allows people to drop a curb and essentially reserve a parking space while those without a dropped curb have no right to the space outside their house?

We could in theory get rid of the tiny front area of the house and drop the curb and park right outside our house but it would be costly and not worth it but its just annoying that there seems to be a special rule one you drop the curb.

Any idea why this is the case? It doesn't keep the road clearer and makes parking a nightmare because the dropped bits are more than a car width so they are essentially giving them nearly 2 cars worth of reserved space.

 

[BigBoy]

News flash!!
You have no right to park outside your own home unless you have a drive way!


You say it's costly and not worth it but you complain parking is poor. You have the only answer get a drive way.

 

[Jez]

Dropping the curb if an option seems like a no brainer as a one off way to clear the front of your house for parking...

 

[NoobCannon]

News flash!!
You have no right to park outside your own home unless you have a drive way!


You say it's costly and not worth it but you complain parking is poor. You have the only answer get a drive way.

/thread

 

[a1ex2001]

Drop the kerb it will make your house worth more and end the stress of parking!

Personally I think car tax should be related to size of vehicle if parked on the road would encourage people to buy smaller vehicles so we could get more cars parked modern vehicles are ridiculous escorts and 3 series from 25 years ago look like smart cars!

 

[Burned_Alive]

A dropped curb is there to provide access to the property, not to provide parking. It's just a happy coincidence for those with a dropped curb that they're the only person who can park across it without consequence.

 

[fez]

A dropped curb is there to provide access to the property, not to provide parking. It's just a happy coincidence for those with a dropped curb that they're the only person who can park across it without consequence.

That would make sense if the property wasn't 10 feet back from the curb but most peoples are. I'm not spending thousands of pounds to get a dropped curb and sort out the front of the house to accommodate it but I just wanted to know what the logic behind it was. Seems entirely stupid.

 

[Semple]

what kind of retarded logic allows people to drop a curb and essentially reserve a parking space while those without a dropped curb have no right to the space outside their house?

A dropped curb isn't meant to be used to park on, it's meant to be there to allow access to a driveway.

I guess at the end of the day if people have 2 cars and they're parking 1 on the driveway, and one infront of the driveway, then that's their right to do so.

 

[Semple]

That would make sense if the property wasn't 10 feet back from the curb but most peoples are. I'm not spending thousands of pounds to get a dropped curb and sort out the front of the house to accommodate it but I just wanted to know what the logic behind it was. Seems entirely stupid.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter if the property was 100 feet back, and had a driveway that could hold 20 cars, the logic still applies.

Do these people not have driveways? I must admit, i'd find it a bit strange if the council dropped a curb infront of a house that had 2 foot garden with a brick wall (i.e. clearly nowhere to park). But if these people have driveways, then that's the logic - how else do people access their driveways if not over a dropped curb?

 

[dowie]

We only have a single car so its not the end of the world but I was just wondering, what kind of retarded logic allows people to drop a curb and essentially reserve a parking space while those without a dropped curb have no right to the space outside their house?

Because a dropped curb provides access to and from a driveway and so you shouldn't really park on it. I think technically it is only legally dodgy if you're blocking someone in (i.e. there is a car on the driveway or potentially unseen in the garage) and you could, if you wanted to, be a douche and park there preventing someone getting back into their drive without legal comeback(though I potentially stand to be corrected on this one).

Of course if someone owns the house and perhaps parks one car on the drive and another in front of the dropped curb then that is their prerogative, they can coordinate moving cars about within their household etc..

 

[Rroff]

Parking has become a bit of a nightmare between the increased number of cars and the selfish way a lot of people park - at night our road fills up on both sides to the point you wouldn't get a fire engine through! the council ordered a halt on a block of flats being built as the developers didn't provide enough off street parking which they seem to be a bit stuck on. My future commute to work is a nightmare due to people parking on the road through one section - annoyingly most of them have garages but don't seem to use them probably due to the extra couple of minutes effort it would involve versus just being able to walk out their front door into their car - blow anyone that has to use the road.

 

[mattyg]

You can't drive over the pavement unless you have a dropped kerb. If you have a dropped kerb you can apply to have a H painted

 

[Josh]

Yeah we suffer from a Uni, Hospital and train station locally so we have real parking issues between 7-7. I think if the cost wasn't so high more people wouldn't find parking for free within a 10min walk and pay.

Plus we have several multi occupancy dwellings on our road with 5-6 adults in them, coupled with the poor standard of parking it makes it a stressful experience sometimes

I suggested a residents parking permit to the council parking inspector but never heard anything back.

InB4 "move to a better area".

 

[Psycho Sonny]

We have just moved into a new area and the parking is awful. Its next to a station and theres a dentists on the road and loads of people have dropped curbs so its basically ****. We only have a single car so its not the end of the world but I was just wondering, what kind of retarded logic allows people to drop a curb and essentially reserve a parking space while those without a dropped curb have no right to the space outside their house?

We could in theory get rid of the tiny front area of the house and drop the curb and park right outside our house but it would be costly and not worth it but its just annoying that there seems to be a special rule one you drop the curb.

Any idea why this is the case? It doesn't keep the road clearer and makes parking a nightmare because the dropped bits are more than a car width so they are essentially giving them nearly 2 cars worth of reserved space.

Why didn't you buy a house with a driveway? Or do your research properly?

 

[Steampunk]

We have just moved into a new area and the parking is awful. Its next to a station and theres a dentists on the road and loads of people have dropped curbs so its basically ****. We only have a single car so its not the end of the world but I was just wondering, what kind of retarded logic allows people to drop a curb and essentially reserve a parking space while those without a dropped curb have no right to the space outside their house?

We could in theory get rid of the tiny front area of the house and drop the curb and park right outside our house but it would be costly and not worth it but its just annoying that there seems to be a special rule one you drop the curb.

Any idea why this is the case? It doesn't keep the road clearer and makes parking a nightmare because the dropped bits are more than a car width so they are essentially giving them nearly 2 cars worth of reserved space.

What, you think you should be allowed to park over a dropped kerb and block someone on or off their drive? It would make no sense for people to be able to block drives, and that's why you can't park over crossings. You're entitled to park on the road, not on dropped kerbs/crossings.

If it's a big problem because of your local area, then join everyone else, get a dropped kerb, and reserve your own spot. There's not much else you can do when everyone else has multiple cars, when you've got lots of transient parkers, etc as they are just as much entitled to park on the road as you are.

 

[Rroff]

Yeah we suffer from a Uni, Hospital and train station locally

Train station near me has recently got rid of their free parking pushing a lot more people to park on the roads nearby as well fortunately we are moving (hopefully) soon and getting away from it all.

 

[fez]

Why didn't you buy a house with a driveway? Or do your research properly?

We knew the parking was a bit **** but we really liked the house, it was in our budget and its not that big of a deal. I simply wanted to know what the strange logic behind dropped curbs allows people to essentially stick two fingers up at everyone without one and block off that section of the road.

What, you think you should be allowed to park over a dropped kerb and block someone on or off their drive?

No, I think you either should have the space outside your house allocated to the owner of the house or dropped curbs shouldn't be allowed to be installed in areas where parking is bad.

It would make no sense for people to be able to block drives, and that's why you can't park over crossings. You're entitled to park on the road, not on dropped kerbs/crossings.

If it's a big problem because of your local area, then join everyone else, get a dropped kerb, and reserve your own spot. There's not much else you can do when everyone else has multiple cars, when you've got lots of transient parkers, etc as they are just as much entitled to park on the road as you are.

Thats kind of my point, they shouldn't really be just as entitled. Anyway, this seems to have turned into a pointless "get a dropped curb"-athon.

 

[Steampunk]

We knew the parking was a bit **** but we really liked the house, it was in our budget and its not that big of a deal. I simply wanted to know what the strange logic behind dropped curbs allows people to essentially stick two fingers up at everyone without one and block off that section of the road.

Because you can't have people blocking other people on and off their drives. Just like you can't have people parking over zebra crossings, or in the middle of the road, or on the pavement. It would be like me standing in front of your door and saying "sorry mate, you can't leave or enter your house until I'm done standing here."

No, I think you either should have the space outside your house allocated to the owner of the house or dropped curbs shouldn't be allowed to be installed in areas where parking is bad.

Thats kind of my point, they shouldn't really be just as entitled. Anyway, this seems to have turned into a pointless "get a dropped curb"-athon.

Why shouldn't they be entitled to park on the street where their dentist is? Why should the dentist not be able to have their customers to park there? Maybe they are visiting relatives on the street, or any number of reasons? Maybe they have more than one car?

I'm sure you have lots of reasons why you should be able to have your own reserved parking spot in front of your house, but then everyone else has their reasons too. If the whole country was like this, you'd never be able to go anywhere that didn't have a car park. You'd be able to drive around, but only park in front of your own house and nowhere else!

The only other thing you can do is ask the local council to consult with the residents to get a parking scheme put into place (a petition of the street ususally starts off this process), but even with parking permits, you might have to pay for those and you are still competing with the other residents rather than getting your own spot.

I'm sure if the council were willing to put in your drive at no cost you'd be more than happy to sign up and have one, so it's not really drives and drive crossing you're against, just that you'd have to pay for it.

 

[BigBoy]

My local council will put in a dropped kerb for £150 per kerb stone +VAT not massively expensive as it's usually 7-9 kerb stones including the drop edges.

Responsibility of parking is down to your local council as others have said, but unless the council runs residential parking permit schemes you will struggle to get any action.

 

[fez]

Because you can't have people blocking other people on and off their drives. Just like you can't have people parking over zebra crossings, or in the middle of the road, or on the pavement. It would be like me standing in front of your door and saying "sorry mate, you can't leave or enter your house until I'm done standing here."

Its nothing like that. I just don't expect people in busy areas where parking is an issue to be able to get a dropped curb and limit the available parking even more. Its basically putting up a reserved parking sign that has legal backing outside the front of your house which you clearly think is not OK at all. Curbs have been dropped and thats life but allowing it to continue in these areas seems unfair.

Why shouldn't they be entitled to park on the street where their dentist is? Why should the dentist not be able to have their customers to park there? Maybe they are visiting relatives on the street, or any number of reasons? Maybe they have more than one car?

Because its in the middle of a load of houses. Why should a business take priority over people who live in an area. Lets say everyone on the road drops their curbs, what now? Thats perfectly OK I assume. No parking for the dentists but its OK because they are dropped curbs?

I'm sure you have lots of reasons why you should be able to have your own reserved parking spot in front of your house, but then everyone else has their reasons too. If the whole country was like this, you'd never be able to go anywhere that didn't have a car park. You'd be able to drive around, but only park in front of your own house and nowhere else!

I'm not saying that in the slightest. I'm saying that if you can't reserve a spot outside your house without a dropped curb you shouldn't be able to put one in and essentially do the same.

I'm sure if the council were willing to put in your drive at no cost you'd be more than happy to sign up and have one, so it's not really drives and drive crossing you're against, just that you'd have to pay for it.

If someone was willing to pay for it I would have a lot of things done, thats beside the point. Perhaps I should just be able to pay the council £5,000 and have my own personal space with a nice pattern printed on it outside my house because thats all this amounts to. Paying to secure your parking at the expense of others.