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Road Cycling

Discussion in 'Pedal Powered' started by FrenchTart, 29 Jun 2016.

  1. Junglist

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 11 Jun 2015

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    Location: Bristol

    I'm going to stick with tubes for a bit longer and hope that I'm more lucky in the future. It's my fault for not being as prepared and having a spare with me and resorting to fixing it!

    Though looking at a cycling calculator, I probably suffered a pinch flat as it recommends at my weight (81kg) with 25mm tyres that I should be near 110 PSI. I never went that high!

    I'm still a bit tempted to go Tubeless as it is my only real bike so I don't think I'd have the issue of sealant pooling but I suppose it's always a risk

    That sounds like a rapid pace for such a long duration! Awesome stuff
     
  2. One More Solo

    Capodecina

    Joined: 29 Dec 2004

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    Location: Manchester

    Hed's calculator gives 75 psi for the same weight and tyre width, so I think the only real answer is "it depends". :D
     
  3. doodah

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    Location: London

    Don't suppose anyone has a bike shop recommendation for SW London? I think mine is in need of a service and Decathalon only do the basics, and not worth going to Halfords (where I bought the bike) as I won't see if for several months.

    I have found a bunch of independent shops in and around Wimbledon/Wandsworth but they must be so busy, as I have yet to make successful contact with any after repeated efforts.

    Edit - never mind, a couple of them got back to me.
     
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  4. Jonny ///M

    Capodecina

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    Did nothing for a week and met a group for a long one today.

    Lights went out at 4 hours in roughly, sat in to the services and told two guys who were niggling each other that I'd get them back once my food kicked in.

    Pedalling through cramp pretty much all the way back, one of the guys clipped off the front and the other couldn't shut the gap so I lit it up and went straight past them all. Cramping in places I didn't know existed but I managed to stay away for about 8 miles or so. Hung my head in shame and went my own way home. :cry:

    How long before I can show face again??
     
  5. doodah

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    Hhhhmm my legs are being a bit funny. I was sat down the other day and jumped out of the chair due to a painful cramp in my right leg. Thought it was just a one off but on a ride yesterday, I could feel both legs (but still mainly the right) tensing up and what felt like mini cramps. My body didn't seem to appreciate standing in certain positions after the ride, even laying down on my sofa wasn't comfortable. Google says age or possibly lack of water :o:cry:. Ride into work this morning was OK and I have only felt a twinge briefly once today.

    I may have over done it, tweaked something and/or me starting weights this week hasn't gone down well. I suffer from hypermobility but it's caused almost no issues since I took up cycling last summer.

    Edit - muscles above my right knee (front and back), plus I have just realised the muscle directly above my kneecap seems way larger than it's left counterpart.
     
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  6. Martynt74

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    Location: Higher Walton

    Well my cycling career has started terribly. I fell during a run on holiday and sprained my ankle pretty badly. Went to the hospital to confirm there's no fracture and am currently all bandaged up. Foot is still heavily swollen (injury on Friday), despite being elevated for a lot of the time, except for the journey home yesterday. Not sure if the bandage is a little tight and it's causing fluid to pool in my toes.

    Debating taking the bandage off early (was advised to keep it for a week) and just using some compression socks/ankle support. Mainly as the bandage is so thick that i can't get any ice to the injury so feels i'm missing out a little on the recovery.
     
  7. Shoeyuk

    Gangster

    Joined: 31 Jan 2018

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    Location: Bury St Edmunds

    Sorry to hear about your injury @Martynt74 my hip is still pretty sore and after seing the specialist the fracture is a little worse than i first thought. Seems the fracutre has gone into the hip joint so i won't be cycling for another 2 months, i wont be able to put any weight on the right side for another 6 weeks, so i am still getting around on crutches. If the fracture becomes unstable i will have to have an op to put it right. Sitting here in my office looking at by bike sat in the corner is jult killing me at the moment.
     
  8. Roady

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    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

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    Location: Hereford

    Wow it's been a while since I checked in... But work has been manic - also been ill. Little dude brought some cough thing home from Nursery and although I'm into my 3rd week am mostly ok. He's into his 4th and is about 99, the other half sometime between the 2 of us and has just finished antibiotics for a chest infection, so she's still struggling a bit. Think the infection has cleared but we all seem to have the cough back (again). Will be the 3rd or 4th time for us, but think it might be different 'bugs' just with similar symptoms as in the middle of it all we all had a few days of fever and aches like a real flu. Rubbish. Typical it coincided with a week booked off work last week too! I've only really skipped a few rides - done very little outside. Have continued with most of my Zwifting as the days coincided generally when I was feeling better. Also did a Zwift stage race last week so had committed myself to leading a team and couldn't really drop out. Felt good enough to ride, but my performance was down and just seemed to knock myself back a bit after each ride. A few days rest now and I'm feeling good again- maybe I'll Zwift tonight then?! :D :rolleyes: :cry:

    You're best trying a few things yourselves as we're all individual.

    Never forget the fundamentals of fuelling and what you're using for fuel. You've gotta fuel the engine! :D

    Disclaimer: I'm no biologist or nutritionist!

    For tempo/intense efforts that's generally glycogen stores in your blood/muscles/gut your body is using. For more base-level endurance riding your body will do the same (as it's easily accessible), before then switching to burning 'fat'. So you'll hear of people riding 'fasted' - to train the body to do this earlier and easier. There is a generally large reduction in performance when the body 'switches' to fat burning (runs out of glycocen), but that can be trained to have less of an impact by riding in that state. You may come across the term 'keto adapted' (fat adapted) - that's really the higher end of endurance where an athlete will be riding at quite high intensity using just their fat stores - the body trained to 'save' it's glycogen for higher intensity. But why I'm mentioning this - note your body will trim a bunch of 'excess' from just the base cardio work you'll suddenly doing several hours of. This is not technically fat-adaption.

    Glycogen - the reason people like sweet things and use gels, is the sugar means they're very quick to digest and feel the 'boost' from. Almost straight into your blood stream. But they can be quite short lived, so having a good meal with plenty of carbs the night before a morning ride, or additional breakfast will give you more longer term fuel in your gut for those efforts for your body to replenish it's glycogen stores from. Alongside eating things like grains and museli/porridge even more so as they're more of a 'long term burn' your body digests and breaks down over a longer time period.

    Same. I used to have a gel every intense ride, then gradually used them less and less. Only carrying for an 'emergency get me home'. I still may do that occasionally but only for a targeted 'epic' ride/sportive.

    NAKD bars have become my 'go-to'. I've found the more natural I eat the better I generally feel afterwards and I'll snack all the way through like you - even 'just before home' as unless I'm hitting a mealtime I'm kinda fuelling to reach there rather than being empty/hungry as I reach home. I have had various 'side effects' from some electolyte drinks and gels. So bad I actually went off the SiS brand completely. I've had their tabs since without ill effects but would probably not even risk their gels again. I had the effects of laxative for several days from them - not great! I've had milder symptoms from other gels, but would 'risk' it just to get me home on an isolated ride.

    Lots of people I ride with swear by jellybeans or jellybabies. I'll occasionally have a few but not usually my thing to have something so sweet while riding.

    Great riding and well done with that recovery! Keep it up but don't strain yourself too much!

    Rubbish! Good luck with recovery and healing up, see you on Zwift this winter then!

    You're still new to riding position and time in the saddle. It could be any number of things but until your body adapts more to riding you may not really find out and just end up diagnosing something completely bizarre as a 'cause'! :)

    The knee is likely just a cleat position needs a little tweak, possibly saddle fore/aft, but I'd just move the cleat forwards or backwards a couple of mm or the angle first to see if it solves. Foot pain is usually cleat too far forwards, knee is usually a little far back. But those are with your position nailed and body adapted. Cleat position can be very trial and error - I wouldn't adjust it lots if you're not getting any foot pain.

    You might not be gripping the bars too tightly and it could be the vibration, but it could also be your shoulders tensed or your elbow tensed even if your hands are not. Also elbow locked out over vibrations will not help, should be riding with a slightly bent elbow - treat them like minor shock absorbers on uneven surfaces...

    You'll adapt to what you ride and you'll tend to ride more what you enjoy. I love hills, even not being good at them as I consider them challenges to complete. Equally I do get bored riding on the flat and fast roads if I do too much of it, but then I do find maintaining speed 'easy' compared to others... :rolleyes:

    Mine is on home insurance and always causes a large 'debate' every time renewal comes up. We're paying around £350 pa for it and I'm not 100% sure but the bikes are covered up to X value only adding £15-20 to the annual cost - regardless of the number we have, they just wanted to know the value of the most expensive and their upper limit was £2500 so that's what mine is listed as. I'd never be able to replace like for like with the current market prices!

    Awesome numbers mate and just shows what fantastic progress you've made! Chapeau! Slightly jealous! ;)

    Loads of benefit going to 28 and loads going Tubeless, but equally it's a bit more of a 'life decision' than the 'perfect choice'. Pro's and Con's.

    Even tubeless I carry 1 tube with me and on a long sportive will carry 2.

    The past 3 years I've had 1 tubeless hole which didn't seal (old sealant/bad luck). During that time I rode tubes last summer for 2-3 months and had 2-3 punctures. Far more punctures than I ever had before running tubes, so rubbish luck. So I'm still a Tubeless convert.

    Probably your body just still trying to recover from a few ride strains and you doing weights has just extended that recovery needed.

    The knee might solve itself, could be a sprain or something causing the muscle to do that. Rest would be the first bit of advice and if it doesn't clear or the twinges continue look for some specific stretching exercises and then a doctor/massage/sports therapist.
     
  9. doodah

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    Thanks @Roady - impressive level of responding. Not sure what's going on, struggled to stand on my right leg last night for a brief period whilst going for a short walk. Reminded me of when my leg issues started a good few years ago - my right leg suddenly stopped working one day and no reason was found - back to normal a few hours later. I think I can localize a bit better about which muscles; one that twinges feels like a muscle going from my groin down to my knee, on rides I have noticed at times what feels like liquid on my knee but under the skin. And going up stairs in my home or any that are more steep, calf muscles and ankles instantly feel stretched and soreness. Didn't cycle in today, if rest doesn't work - might go see a sports therapist.
     
  10. AndyCr15

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    Thanks. I followed up with a 440 at a Sportive 4 days later too :cry:

    Last night was our branch 'staggered race'. I found a nearby 7 mile(ish) loop, did some maths on everyone's average speeds to work out staggered start times for the 6 of us to do 3 laps and in theory, all finish together in a crazy sprint finish!



    Basically, there were 6 of us, the guy that started 40 minutes before the fastest guy did in fact win by 4 minutes, but then came the fastest guy just beating the second fastest in a sprint and me rolling in about 25 seconds behind them, just not being able to keep up on the final climb. The second slowest guy came in about 30 seconds later then we had a 3 minute wait for the last guy, so generally it worked really well and was fascinating to have strategy to work out. For example, guy #5 (second fastest) caught me just as we started the second lap! I jumped on his wheel and he pulled me for a lap. I took the front for the 3rd lap and slowed the pace a little, but that allowed guy #6 to catch us on the final climb...
     
  11. PikeyPriest

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 21 Jun 2004

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    Quick question - are chains fairly standard? I have done 2500km on the chain and swapped the freewheel to give a wheel for trainer and it is quite clunky. I am going to check the rear derailleur later, but I notice the chain is sitting up on the crankset so that I can see small air gaps for the first almost quarter of the the crank. The teeth themselves aren’t saw toothed or like the pictures I’ve seen online, so I’m guessing it’s new chain time?

    Its a 7 speed bike so would any chain fit?

    Thanks for any help
    (Hopefully will be able to use cycle to work to get something more road focussed in 6 months time)
     
  12. SoliD

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    No you would need a specific chain for 6,7,8 speed which I believe are all the same width.
     
  13. #Chri5#

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  14. SoliD

    Capodecina

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    Good spot!
     
  15. fez

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    You want a 7 speed chain and you want to get yourself a chain wear tool which will tell you when its time to replace the chain. If you replace your chain before it gets too worn you will extend the life of your whole drivetrain massively. If you aren't careful you will end up having to replace the whole thing because your new chain will be trying to work on chainrings that are too worn. You should be able to get 2-3 chains to each cassette roughly.
     
  16. UTmaniac

    Soldato

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    But do they last as long as the X11s and cope with my godlike ~600W peak sprints? :cry:
     
  17. #Chri5#

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    I've not snapped the one I put on in June... yet :D The Shimano one it replaced made a right noise when it went when pulling off from some traffic lights. Where's the GCN Wattage Bazooka image when you need it?
     
  18. PikeyPriest

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 21 Jun 2004

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    @fez @SoliD

    Thanks for the help! Chain replaced and rear derailleur indexed. Much quieter and fits the crankset nicely!
     
  19. Junglist

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    I think I'm going to give up cycling to Chepstow. I think it's a cursed ride.

    My chain hopped off and got jammed between the small chainring and the frame and when I got it home I noticed it had bent. I suppose it's a good excuse to buy a new one but it's a bit annoying. Only had the bike a month or so and having to replace something so soon on an expensive bike is leaving a sour taste in my mouth!

    It got me home and it was a lovely ride aside from that so I'll try and remain positive. Just one of those things!


    Edit: now a bit of time has passed my initially calm mood has now switched to panic and expecting the worst.
    Sorry the pictures aren't very clear but the silver thing is what I heard hit the floor when the chain came off and I presume it was there to protect the frame. The other picture is what damage has been done by the chain getting stuck between the chainring and frame.

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    Any ideas what I should do?
     
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  20. One More Solo

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    The silver thing is just there to protect the frame and it’s not unusual for them to come off when you trap the chain like that. The damage is a bit of a bummer but nothing that would concern me. On a black bike you could probably touch it up with some carbon filler and it’d be fairly invisible.