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Russia election: Vladimir Putin wins by big margin

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Evangelion, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. do_ron_ron

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    So the special forces of France and the UK were not soldiers. The UK had to admit their special forces were on the ground two days after the French said both countries special forces were active.
     
  2. do_ron_ron

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  3. ubersonic

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    LMAO no, no we did not.

    We got UN approval for a no fly zone, then instead we launched a full blown air offensive destroying the Libyan military from the air so badly that a small group of armed rebels who were on the verge of annihilation were able to rally and take over the country (aided by the fact that the Libyan military started to defect once they saw regime change was on the go). Hell we even took out Gaddafi himself.
     
  4. dowie

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    we got approval for a bit more than a no fly zone, note the bold bit below:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973


    as for Gaddafi, he got a bullet in the head courtesy of the rebels
     
  5. PegasusOne

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    Yes, a no fly zone was enforced to stop Gadaffi from bombing his own citizens, also known as genocide. So much so that two Libyan bombers defected to Malta with all their ordinance ready to go after taking off saying they had been ordered to bomb X location and they didn't agree with it.

    A no fly zone wasen't enforced in Syria and Assad has been dropping barrel bombs on his own people since day 1.

    But no, America's fault etc etc....oil ...oil...conspiracy etc.

    Gaddafi was eventually shot by his own people. There was an uprising remember, they hated him, primarily for killing off their relatives.
     
  6. StriderX

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    That is not genocide mate, that's just murder.

    I wish people would stop ruining words to suit their hyperbole, Gaddafi deserved what he got, but Libya is a ******* ******** now, so whatever.
     
  7. PegasusOne

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    Well, if you look at the definition closely, you are right. It has to be a specific group or set of people. Assad tried to bomb people who are rebelling against them, there is your group of people. In the end, he's still trying to kill his own people what ever word you use for it.

    There is no hyperbole, that is what happened.
     
  8. TeraVirus

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    Was this a suprise? People mysteriously disappear if they speak up against him. Even if it wasn't rigged, the people of Russia voted for him out of fear.
     
  9. Pocah

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    Most politicians are the same. They would change laws to ensure they are elected for the rest of their lives if only they thought they could get away with it. The two things that are common amongst most politicians is their belief that they know best and their hunger for power. Only their policies differ. Simple fact is that most politicians are mentally unfit to run this world, so really I don't see much difference between the Trumps and Putins. The politicians of this world are tearing it apart, destroying the population and the planet, with their perpetual bickering and greed.
    You know Charlie Chaplin performed a speech in The Great Dictator?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HdOHrc3OQ

    At the end of the war the people thought we would enter an new era, but still we are lost. I fear now that it is too late. Greed has sown the seeds that will see our children with no future. Pity them.
     
  10. Evangelion

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  11. Evangelion

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    He's just been released. Spanish police did the right thing, thankfully.

    I just hope Brower isn't 'suicided' with two bullets in the back of his head.
     
  12. VincentHanna

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  13. MR-007

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    I've listened to many interviews with Putin and he's changed a lot for the better. He was very shy but now speaks comfortably and has become quite an icon. Of course there will be many Russians who dislike him but the majority feel he is doing a good job.

    The idea he is some mastermind controlling everything is ridiculous. There are many great Russian minds in politics unlike the idiots we have like Boris Johnson.


    Why is this swindler George Soros fellow always advocating war with Russia?

    Gay rights

    Borders not open enough for his liking?
     
  14. Nasher

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    Putin is an ex-spy, he knows how to lie convincingly and lay on the charm. Don't be fooled.

    Almost everyone who has politically opposed him is dead or in prison. Or in hiding in another country.
     
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  15. Evangelion

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    Nobody says this except lunatic conspiracy theorists.

    Is he? Evidence please.
     
  16. ubersonic

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    He is an ex-KGB member, but he was more of a Moneypenny figure than a Bond. So many people seem to give him far too much credit lol.
     
  17. Pocah

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    Ah truth is I think many politicians would love to rig the system and would do so if they thought they could get away with it. It seems a prerequisite that "politician" = "massive ego". The simple fact is that most politicians are amazingly unsuitable to rule. To my mind we have to get away from this concept that there is a huge hierarchy culminating in a single person. One person is not capable of knowing all that needs to be known and is not capable of handling the all encompassing power that they have.
     
  18. Panos

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    Since you are referring to lies, I wonder, what happened in Douma Syria?
    Oh forgot, there was no chemical attack according to OPCW official report came out this week. But someone called Teresa May went happily and bombed Syria without Parliamentary support, claiming that Assad used chemicals against the rebels....
     
  19. Nasher

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    The report says it found chlorinated chemicals (which matches eye-witness reports) and the investigation is still on going. Not necessarily nerve agents, but still chemical weapons. All of which are banned.

    It even states "The FFM has previously confirmed with a “high degree of confidence” the use of chlorine, sulfur mustard, and sarin as weapons."

    https://www.opcw.org/news/article/o...-in-al-hamadaniya-and-karm-al-tarrab-in-2016/

    You should stop getting all your "facts" from the Russian media.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2018
  20. Panos

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    Seems English isn't your main language?

    From the OPCW report you linked.

    Douma :

    Regarding the other sites

    What you quoted was the Background of the OPCW operations from 2014, what I quoted were the results of 3 chemicals attacks the UK and USA bombed Syria for.