Poll: Russian Grand Prix 2018, Sochi - Race 16/21

Rate the 2018 Russian Grand Prix out of ten


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When was the track built?
Designed by Hermann Tilke, the Sochi Autodrom is effectively a street circuit, evolving out of the internal roads of the park built for the city’s 2014 Winter Olympics.
When was its first Grand Prix?
Formula 1’s first ever Russian Grand Prix took place on October 12 2014. The race was won by Mercedes’ Lewis Hamilton, who was midway through a five-race winning streak that would ultimately see him clinch that year’s drivers’ title.
What’s the circuit like?
Looking at a map of the track, your eye can’t help but be drawn to the epic Turn 3, a 750m constant-radius left-hander taking the drivers around the outside of the dramatic Poyushchiye fountain. The rest of the track is characterised by a series of 90-degree bends coupled to some rapid, flowing straights-that-aren’t-straight.
Why go?
Occupying a prime spot on the Black Sea, Sochi is one of Russia’s top beach resorts in the summer, while the race’s early autumn slot should mean it’s just about warm enough for you to work on your tan. If you were inspired by the city’s Winter Olympics, however, you’re out of luck – the ski season in the resorts around Sochi doesn’t get going until December.

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Track Diagram & Information
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Weather Forecast
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2017 Race Edit
https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2017/4/Race_highlights_-_Russia_2017.html

Russia Preview
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-you-need-to-know.4zmnsNulvik0W8kaGkcaW2.html

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Practice 1
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Practice 2
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Hope you had a good holiday.

Make or break for Vettel and Ferrari. Both have been taken to school by Hamilton and Mercedes over the past few races, and they must surely have used the past two weeks to plot how they can possibly win every remaining race. It is their only realistic chance.

Stupid track btw :)
 

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I know they have to talk a track up, but really...from the track intro quoted in the OP:

your eye can’t help but be drawn to the epic Turn 3, a 750m constant-radius left-hander

'Epic'...Jesus H. tapdancing Christ :rolleyes:

Eau Rouge is epic. Parabolica isn't far off. Peraltada was epic. 130R still is. And of all the Tilke corners, Turn 8 at Istanbul will remain a high point. But Turn 3 in Sochi? Not even in the same universe as 'epic'.
 
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I know they have to talk a track up, but really...from the track intro quoted in the OP:



'Epic'...Jesus H. tapdancing Christ :rolleyes:

Eau Rouge is epic. Parabolica isn't far off. Peraltada was epic. 130R still is. And of all the Tilke corners, Turn 8 at Istanbul will remain a high point. But Turn 3 in Sochi? Not even in the same universe as 'epic'.

Turn 3 in Sochi is also quite difficult - you wanna full throttle all the way but you will lose the car if you are not careful.

Ferrari needs not to repeat the mistake from two weeks ago when on a street circuit they didn't prioritise track position :eek:
 
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Interesting to see Ferrari have once again pretty much ignored the Soft tyre, at least for Vettel anyway.
Both Mercs have 2 soft, 4 ultra and 7 hyper.
Vettel has 1 soft, 3 ultra and 9 hyper, Raikkonen has 2 soft, 3 ultra and 8 hyper.

I suppose they'll have Raikkonen to run them for a bit which should give them some info.
 
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Interesting to see Ferrari have once again pretty much ignored the Soft tyre, at least for Vettel anyway.
Both Mercs have 2 soft, 4 ultra and 7 hyper.
Vettel has 1 soft, 3 ultra and 9 hyper, Raikkonen has 2 soft, 3 ultra and 8 hyper.

I suppose they'll have Raikkonen to run them for a bit which should give them some info.

Normally, Ferrari is more gentle with the tyres and doesn't destroy them so quickly, like Hamilton likes to do pretty often.
So, Ferrari doesn't need the hardest, slowest and most durable compound.
 
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But still, bringing one set of them is stupid. You cannot test the setup on them at all. I get that they're not the preferred race tyre, but if he has an incident in the first 5-10 laps and wants to pit early and go to the end then the team needs to know how the tyre will react. This is why Ferrari screwed the pooch completely in Monza.
 
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Normally, Ferrari is more gentle with the tyres and doesn't destroy them so quickly, like Hamilton likes to do pretty often.
So, Ferrari doesn't need the hardest, slowest and most durable compound.

Just need a stronger car for when Vettel tries to drive into everyone else.

Strong Pace from Mercedes on the hardest, slowest and most durable compound this morning.
 
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But still, bringing one set of them is stupid. You cannot test the setup on them at all. I get that they're not the preferred race tyre, but if he has an incident in the first 5-10 laps and wants to pit early and go to the end then the team needs to know how the tyre will react. This is why Ferrari screwed the pooch completely in Monza.

An incident will ruin the race anyways, and one stop with hard tyres won't save it.

Just need a stronger car for when Vettel tries to drive into everyone else.

Strong Pace from Mercedes on the hardest, slowest and most durable compound this morning.

But we don't know the other variables, like the fuel load, the engine modes, the sandbagging, etc.
 
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Some good trolling there Trollvester.

Not trolling, I used to support Hamilton, especially when he was relatable as person but not now he has become the F1 equivalent of Wacko Jacko albeit without the questionable sexual behaviour. I find Vettel a far more relatable and personable chap all round.
 
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Normally, Ferrari is more gentle with the tyres and doesn't destroy them so quickly, like Hamilton likes to do pretty often.
So, Ferrari doesn't need the hardest, slowest and most durable compound.

Hamilton is incredibly gentle on his tyres. Ferrari has been brutal to its tyres the last few races.

Interesting to see the Mercs not bother with the hyper in P1.
 
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An incident will ruin the race anyways, and one stop with hard tyres won't save it.

But we don't know the other variables, like the fuel load, the engine modes, the sandbagging, etc.

Worked for Rosberg couple of years ago to come back to second after c hanging tyres at the end of the first lap.

True, but same can be said from both sides, I'm sure Merc will be happier finishing 3rd on the slower tyre by only 0.3s.
 
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But still, bringing one set of them is stupid. You cannot test the setup on them at all. I get that they're not the preferred race tyre, but if he has an incident in the first 5-10 laps and wants to pit early and go to the end then the team needs to know how the tyre will react. This is why Ferrari screwed the pooch completely in Monza.


See so many people saying this. If the car isn't tearing up the softest compound and is fast then it's already the correct setup for the hardest compound. That's simply how it is, testing is to make sure the car feels comfortable and has decent tire setup for the race and then about getting it optimised for the last run in Q3, nothing more or less. If you can do X laps on the softer tire in a race sim then testing the harder compound is basically a waste. Q3 laps come from the extreme margins, the extra qualifying runs that let you find that one corner you can make up 1/10th on.

Monza did not get screwed from tire strategy at all, it did not get screwed from not testing the soft.

Kimi is a slower race pace driver than vettel and certainly Hamilton. Hamilton + Merc was faster than Ferrari + Kimi, Kimi pushed harder to make a gap and in doing so blistered his tires, nothing more or less. If Kimi didn't push, Hamilton had him. If they tested 3 sets of softs in free practice, nothing would have changed in the race... except that they may have qualified 2nd and 3rd and behind Hamilton from the start.

Look at Austria, Ricciardo and Verstappen pitted at the same time, Ricciardo burned out his tires, Verstappen went to the end and won on the same tires with the same information before the race. Kimi burned out the tires because he drove too aggressively if he put the tires on 20 laps later or if he did all the testing in the world, he pushed that pace to stay ahead of Hamilton, if he didn't push that pace he wouldn't have been ahead of Hamilton anyway.
 
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