Ryzen 1700x upgrade - real life benefit?

katie279 said:
Ah, the world needs more stalkers like Journey then - he can stalk me any time, you know creeping up with that good advice and helpful tips! :cry::cry::cry:
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Wish I had time to stalk people. :( - However there is no need to stalk you, as we all know to just look for the sunniest place in the land and that is where you'll be found. :cry:

If you are worried about your board you can find the 5900(non-X) in some places which is a 65w rated CPU, or you can get a 5900x and under volt it
 
Heheheh! Very true sir, very true - I'm like a little ray of sunshine, sent to annoy Ron-ski!

Well I'm not worried about my board, I'm just wanting to push it as far as it'll go (next time would have to be a complete motherboard upgrade)

So we have a vote from the expert gents required:
5900 non x
5700x
3900x

What's your votes for a final upgrade to this motherboard?
 
katie279 said:
What's your votes for a final upgrade to this motherboard?
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5700X is a good balance between power, performance and price (< £175), so I agree with Micky.

I wouldn't bother with older gen CPUs because in some apps (like Adobe and especially games) you'll still benefit from the higher single thread performance of Zen 3.

The 5900/5900X/5950X are worth it, IF you're spending a lot of time waiting around and the apps fully support multi-threading, because they have the potential of saving you hours, days, or even weeks of rendering time, but if you're only doing a few long-run tasks a week, then I'd just buy the 5700X.
 
katie279 said:
Ah right - interesting, so what would be the effect, would it just not work even though the MB was rated for it?
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It would work but when VRM hit a certain temp they throttle power delivery to the cpu and the cpu clocks will be reduced.

You have a few good option and all of them are huge upgrades over the 1700x. Keep eye on members market and if you can pick one of the 5700x , 5900 or 3900x for cheap then it would be a good deal.
 
katie279 said:
Hi all!

Quick question if I may. My 'grunt PC' that I use for work, video, photos, games and so on is running on a Ryzen 1700x that you all recommended to me years ago.

It's all running fine and not laggy, I'm just wondering how far CPUs have come in the last 5-6 years.

Can anyone give me a sense of how much faster tasks like photoshop, video editing and so on would be with a brand new processor? (say £500-800 CPU range?)

A lot of the sites I've looked at seem to give generic 'ratings' which don't really mean anything - what I'd be keen to understand is where a render takes 1 min, would it now take 50 secs or 5 secs!

Just trying to get a sense of whether a modern CPU would be 20% faster or 200% in most tasks! (and thus is it worth thinking about upgrades!)
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If I were you I will go with AMD Ryzen 9 7900X AM5 Processor. It's AMD's newest processor and future proof. It will do faster what ever the work you through at it.
 
Journey said:
Sorry you would be incorrect in this instance. Also money is not the only factor to consider when upgrading a system, only one of many things to consider.
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Yes you are correct to some extend. But If I have money I will build the fastest PC because I can used it longer without any upgrade. If you have fast PC you can do anything with it from browsing internet to render 3D graphics.
 
Anuruddha said:
Yes you are correct to some extend. But If I have money I will build the fastest PC because I can used it longer without any upgrade. If you have fast PC you can do anything with it from browsing internet to render 3D graphics.
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if his only theoretical expense is CPU which will keep system almost in pair with current AM5 rigs .. ?
 
Well thanks, although for 3d graphics (I've done them for 25 years or so), I've always found it more cost effective and user friendly to have a central rig and then use the excess money to build a render farm (ie multiple relatively modern CPUs tend to demolish one brand new one in cost to photons ratio?)

As Journey says, money isn't really an issue (other than wanting a decent ROI balance of outlay), but time is also a factor - ie swapping a CPU Vs a complete build.

Oh and 'he' is a she......
 
5950x 16c 32 threads is then the best choice of all for cost of 400 providing over 70% higher single core performance than 1700x and 3xbetter performance in photoshop/video editing tasks , not to mention power usage at almost unchanged level
 
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5950x 16c 32 threads is then the best choice of all for cost of 400 providing over 70% higher single core performance than 1700x and 3xbetter performance in photoshop/video editing tasks , not to mention power usage at almost unchanged level
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Oh that's interesting, but does the previous poster's point around vrm limits on my MB not matter or do you think it'd be ok?
 
Stick to 65w CPUs. Or just get a cheap AM4 board with better VRMs to replace it if you really want the extra performance a 5950x would bring. Still beats spending at least double that at >£500 to get equivalent performance with early AM5.
 
katie279 said:
Ok having checked prices - I think the 5800x seems only a little more than the 5700x, so I think I might plump for that one.

Sorry one more question - I spotted a 5800x3d - what's this compared to the 5800x!? Is it a meaningful difference?
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Don't bother with the 5800x, it's the same as a 5700x but with slightly higher power limits and clocks at stock. The 5800X3D has extra L3 cache for gaming.
 
katie279 said:
Ok having checked prices - I think the 5800x seems only a little more than the 5700x, so I think I might plump for that one.

Sorry one more question - I spotted a 5800x3d - what's this compared to the 5800x!? Is it a meaningful difference?
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Avoid the 5800X, the 5700x is a better chip for your board same 8c/16t.
 
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