Depends on OP's workload as to whether it would be worth it because not many workloads are going to utilize 16 cores. A 1700x to a 5700x would be a great upgrade for minimal cost. New 5700x for £169, sell the 1700x for £40, total cost £129. A new 5950x for £433, new cooler for £40, sell the 1700x for £40, total cost £433.
Ryzen 1700x upgrade - real life benefit?
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For comparison , I have a 5800x on this PC and it uses 120-130W when running Prime95. I have a 5900x upstairs and that uses 180W in Prime , which is very similar to the 1700x power useage.
The TDP for modern cpus is best ignored in most cases because it is not really a true representation it the actual Watts consumed
Your psu will be fine , nothing to worry about there.
The TDP for modern cpus is best ignored in most cases because it is not really a true representation it the actual Watts consumed
Your psu will be fine , nothing to worry about there.
I know what you mean but the OP says: “My 'grunt PC' that I use for work, video, photos, games”. I was in a similar situation and ended up just building a new PC, but I had lots of spare parts so just needed CPU+MOBO+RAM. I was going to get a 5800X3D or 5900X or 5950X but the main downside to AM4 is the lack of PCIe and if it’s a 3xx chipset it’s also gen 3. I really wanted PCIe gen 4/5 and more M.2 storage as my CPU was not that bad (3900X).
Ok, so let's flip this around for debate then, if I went with a MB upgrade and chip and so on, what would the outlay be there and how much more grunt would it buy?
I'm not adverse to upgrading more, just be keen to understand if £129 gets me say 70% more power, then what would the best MB upgrade get me?
I'm not adverse to upgrading more, just be keen to understand if £129 gets me say 70% more power, then what would the best MB upgrade get me?
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What exact tasks are you doing? If you're doing rendering with blender, for example, you can scroll down to the blender chart here:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review - The Best Gaming CPU
AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D is everything that gamers want: eight fast cores, in a single CCD, with 3D VCache stacked on top at a price point of $450. In our review we can confirm that 7800X3D is indeed the fastest gaming CPU available, beating Intel's 13900K and even the 7950X3D.
It includes a 5700X, right up to a 7950X, but as said above, not everything will scale to cores in the same way.
In comparison to a 1700x
100% performance increase - 5700x - £210
150% performance increase - 5900x - £315
200% performance increase - 5950x - £440
300% performance increase - entire new platform with 7950x - £1100-1200
100% performance increase - 5700x - £210
150% performance increase - 5900x - £315
200% performance increase - 5950x - £440
300% performance increase - entire new platform with 7950x - £1100-1200
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Brilliant Haz! Thank you, that's really useful rough estimates.
Based on that, it seems a little tempting to push to 5900x for an extra £100 or so for the 50% extra.
Know it's a rough art, but if directionally correct then seems like it's just as much time doing the upgrade as 5700x, so no time loss and a decent bit extra power/speed which will probably be worth it...?
Based on that, it seems a little tempting to push to 5900x for an extra £100 or so for the 50% extra.
Know it's a rough art, but if directionally correct then seems like it's just as much time doing the upgrade as 5700x, so no time loss and a decent bit extra power/speed which will probably be worth it...?
As per original post, bit of everything - Photoshop, blender, illustrator, some games and so on.What exact tasks are you doing? If you're doing rendering with blender, for example, you can scroll down to the blender chart here:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review - The Best Gaming CPU
AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D is everything that gamers want: eight fast cores, in a single CCD, with 3D VCache stacked on top at a price point of $450. In our review we can confirm that 7800X3D is indeed the fastest gaming CPU available, beating Intel's 13900K and even the 7950X3D.www.techpowerup.com
It includes a 5700X, right up to a 7950X, but as said above, not everything will scale to cores in the same way.
5950x is a full blown productivity chip yet still capable of running games. CPUmark wise (productivity - photoshop, encoding etc) it will give you 3 x performance of your current 1700x - (45000 points vs 15000 points) - at the same time you will not be forced to upgrade your current PSU nor your cooler as 16 future cores vs current 8 will probably not be 100% utilized (thats 1st) but if so - you should still be covered as power draw is roughly in pair between mentioned 2 (or can be slightly adjusted by undervolting 16c). Costwise it is 400 - so less than your 500-800 budget.
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Those estimations are only for all core loads like Blender. If you are playing a game you will not be able to tell the difference between a 5700/5900/5950 in the vast majority of titles.
You have a lot of good choices and all give excellent performance increases for well under your budget.
Another thing you may want to consider is a ram upgrade. Ryzen 1 was annoyingly picky with ram compatability but the 5000 series are far more forgiving. If you wanted a ram upgrade then it would be far simpler with a Ryzen 3 cpu
Man of Honour
This is spot on .
It's common sense to go with latest technologies than older ones. It's not worth to invest old technology when new technology already there. You will have to face spare-parts issue if you are depending on old technology because nobody manufacturing it after some time. I'm still in AM4 because I build my PC before AM5.
Soldato
I recently went from a 1700 to a 3900x.
Using the same 2080ti, here are some of my benchmark results, everything at stock:
Furmark
1700:13085
3900X: 13005
3D mark:
1700:11158
3900X: 13285
Cinebench
1700: 6085
3900X: 17643
Battlefield 2042 avg fps 4K
1700: 45-60 fps
3900X 60-80 fps
Valley Benchmark
1700: 3585
3900X: 6365
Using the same 2080ti, here are some of my benchmark results, everything at stock:
Furmark
1700:13085
3900X: 13005
3D mark:
1700:11158
3900X: 13285
Cinebench
1700: 6085
3900X: 17643
Battlefield 2042 avg fps 4K
1700: 45-60 fps
3900X 60-80 fps
Valley Benchmark
1700: 3585
3900X: 6365
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Thanks for agreeing with me Horatio.
The OP built her PC before AM5, you understand that right? She isn't building a new rig?
Ah great to see, yes that's pretty much what I'd expect actually (ie 3d rendering tends to be amongst the most CPU optimised and general games less so!)
Great to see!
similar to expect in video editing etc
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I know that. My point here is it's waste of money to reinvest for old dying technology.
Man of Honour
Upgrading within a platform doesn't mean it's a waste, in fact it a cost effective way to boost your pc without taking a hit selling your old stuff for peanuts.
I hate this dying technology or dead platform terms, it doesn't mean it won't last for years and perform as putting in a better GPU is usually the biggest increase in gaming performance.
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