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ryzen 5 1600 or 1600x

How is it not replicated in game if it measures the time it takes to process the AI turns? The most annoying thing in CIV 6 is the amount of time it takes for AIs to finish their turns, especially later in the game. Having to wait almost half a minute to get to your turn when you're later in the game can make things pretty stale.
So yeah, your older CPU is faster than my 3.6Ghz 1700 by 4 seconds, if I play a long game with several hundred turns that comes to a considerable amount of minutes wasted because Ryzen just takes longer to conclude the AI turns.

I'm still waiting for you to jump ship @humbug and get that Ryzen system, since you seem so in awe of its gaming performance, you know, put your money where your mouth is kind of thing :D
 
i got an idea lets all just scrap our computers and go back to playing monoply, cluedo and battleships

cant beat the good old days or get the commodore 64 out of retirement
 
eddiew said:
I bought a 1600X and wish I hadn't... stupid bios slams the volts up to 1.45 whenever I touch the multiplier; instant heatwave. Which is admittedly the fault of the motherboard, but still rankles. Rather defeated my hopes of a better overclock with an X!

That said, it also runs ~3.69ghz on all cores at stock, so the difference to a [email protected] is insignificant anyway. It still performs much better than my old 2500K (much, much better in some cases), and when Zen+ comes along I'll be wary of falling into the same trap. This was only ever a "cheap" 6 core to tide me over until the 2nd gen 8-core models are available :)

But given the choice again I'd take a plain 1600, which would not upset the bios' voltage settings, would easily clock to the same, and is cheaper.
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What motherboard did you get?
 
marco.da.man said:
i respect people opinions and that you have intel and amd fans, but when it was a simple question i started and turned out into full blown war
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I'm sure it's put off new members from returning to the forums as well. They make a post asking for advice then just see a massive argument unfold, which doesn't really help them out. Obviously health debates are important for forums, but when it happens to this extent it isn't helping much.
 
southernorth said:
I'm sure it's put off new members from returning to the forums as well. They make a post asking for advice then just see a massive argument unfold, which doesn't really help them out. Obviously health debates are important for forums, but when it happens to this extent is isn't helping much.
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i agree its been 5 years since my last system build, so for me im trying catch up with all the latest knowledge.

but for a newbie in can be wierd
 
southernorth said:
I'm sure it's put off new members from returning to the forums as well. They make a post asking for advice then just see a massive argument unfold, which doesn't really help them out. Obviously health debates are important for forums, but when it happens to this extent is isn't helping much.
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You're pretty radical yourself to be fair.
 
marco.da.man said:
i agree its been 5 years since my last system build, so for me im trying catch up with all the latest knowledge.

but for a newbie in can be wierd
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I agree 100%
You have made your mind up that you want ryzen, the 1600 is the one to get.
This has turned into a civ6 thread lol

Have you got a board yet?
 
gavinh87 said:
I would argue that the time taken per turn is more favourable than higher fps in a strategy game.
Each to their own.
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You clearly don't have the game, the time each turn takes is the same in the game its self, no matter what speed i run my CPU at. of course it does, if it did in MP the person with the fastest CPU always wins. its not a game then is it?

One other thing, each run of that benchmark gives me an entirely different results, and i do mean very different, just like every civilisation game with its synthetic benchmark.
 
gavinh87 said:
Good board that, comes with many of the features the x370 crosshair does.
I quite liked the soundcard on that board.
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yeah ive watched an offical asus video on the overclocking on that board to and looks amazing and hoping that the coolermaster masterliquid 240 lite can keep nice and cool too

next step will be 1060 dual 6gb graphics card
 
jigger said:
Yet a few weeks all you did was say how bad the AM4 Asus board was.
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Every single board has issues. The strix would be my choice if I was to get a b350 board now.
Having a good sound card doesn't take away the inability to consistently boot 100% of the time when running 3200mhz or more.
And no this is not an isolated issue, take a look in the other threads.
 
marco.da.man said:
yeah ive watched an offical asus video on the overclocking on that board to and looks amazing and hoping that the coolermaster masterliquid 240 lite can keep nice and cool too
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If you look in the Ryzen threads someone posted a video with an engineer from AMD and he talked in detail about overclocking and AM4 BIOS settings. That's well worth watching.
 
gavinh87 said:
Every single board has issues. The strix would be my choice if I was to get a b350 board now.
Having a good sound card doesn't take away the inability to consistently boot 100% of the time when running 3200mhz or more.
And no this is not an isolated issue, take a look in the other threads.
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Non of the boards I've got have give me trouble even with cheap memory.
 
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