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ryzen 5 1600 or 1600x

There is nothing wrong, the CPU can not handle cold boots when using 3466 despite being rock solid when booted.
The cpu will be for sale, the board is staying.
I don't know how much. I'll check MM prices closer to the time.

ok..
 
when you say high ram speeds are you meaning at what your ram should be running at, but due to overall system it downgrades it ?

i always thought with ram that having to identical sticks at the same it trhen auto balances it out so you have a level playing field ? or is that not the case in todays ddr4 world ?

Yeah, I'm having issues getting to rated speed (3200Mhz C16) so I'm using 2933Mhz C16 right now, which to be fair is rock stable after some extensive stress testing (2 passes of memtest86, 1100% HCI memtest coverage on 90% of the RAM in Windows, 3+ hours of Prime95 Blend).
The performance differences seem somewhat negligible for gaming (1~2% fewer FPS than 3200 C16), but this is with a GTX970.
 
can one of you guys answer a question on the cooling, when adding the fans on the rad do you bolt below or above the rad as ive heard different things like go above the rad so its sucks all heat out ?
 
Yeah, I'm having issues getting to rated speed (3200Mhz C16) so I'm using 2933Mhz C16 right now, which to be fair is rock stable after some extensive stress testing (2 passes of memtest86, 1100% HCI memtest coverage on 90% of the RAM in Windows, 3+ hours of Prime95 Blend).
The performance difference seems somewhat negligible for gaming (1~2% fewer FPS than 3200 C16), but this is with a GTX970.

this is where i get lost on testing, ive never done anything like that before, so thats a whole new world to me
 
can one of you guys answer a question on the cooling, when adding the fans on the rad do you bolt below or above the rad as ive heard different things like go above the rad so its sucks all heat out ?

Its better to push the air through the Rad rather than pull, if that makes sense? so below the rad to push up through it.
 
Silicon lottery, I had x2 1700's one couldn't even get passed 2933 using same board and ram.
It took months of bios updates to get that to 3200 yet the other was able to do it very early on.

On mine everything is on auto except the CPU multiplier which gives 3.7Ghz @ 1.2v max, the 3466 c15 @ 1.4v is simply the Stilts 3466 profile from the bios plus choosing the 3466 RAM divider. Also amended the fan profile to make it more aggressive and that is it using the 9920 BIOS.

No cold boot problems at all so far except when trying to run Hynix ram at beyond 2933. Which suggests some sort of system instability from overclocking, component choice etc. is having an impact or a BIOS issue otherwise I would be getting it as well.
 
yes that makes sense, why do some people pull through the rad, is there a benefit to that ?

Not unless you can get a lot of negative pressure but you need silly amounts of air flow. Fans in push pull can work well.

It's also worth trying to balance the intake of air as much as possible.
 
sorry just thought id ask, happy days in next few weeks ill have my system all sorted apart from graph card and christmas comes first

Nice. :) i'm rebuilding mine early in the new year. the 4690K is really starting to struggle to let the 1070 stretch its legs.

Have you decide on a GPU yet?
 
Not unless you can get a lot of negative pressure but you need silly amounts of air flow. Fans in push pull can work well.

It's also worth trying to balance the intake of air as much as possible.

right okay well my case has two fans at front, one at back then off course the cooler at top, at front will be 2 corsair sp120 led fans
 
this is where i get lost on testing, ive never done anything like that before, so thats a whole new world to me

It's not that difficult nowadays, I was just being overzealous.
Easy way to do it is memtest64 to validate your memory settings. You can run it in Windows and it will just use however much memory you have free for testings (be sure you close everything you have running). If you can get to >10 loops on >14000MB without any errors then you should be fine (it shouldn't take too long, <30 minutes).
To validate your CPU settings I'd suggest installing HWInfo64 for monitoring, it should offer the most accurate data and I'd suggest leaving Prime95 on "Blend" running overnight (usually if you don't get any errors after 3+ hours, you should be 99% fine). A faster way to do it would be to get Realbench and have it do a 30~60 minute stress test using all of your available RAM. You can do shorter stress tests if you want to risk things or longer if you want to make sure it's bedrock stable, but usually 3+ hours of Prime95 and/or 30 minutes of RealBench should be good enough to find most issues. Be sure to monitor temperatures and voltages while doing the stress testing.

The voltage limit which you should not pass is 1.425v for the CPU Vcore (with LLC Auto). Try 1.2v with 3.6Ghz or 1.3v with 3.8Ghz and see if you're stable. Most Ryzens should be able to reach 3.8Ghz with <1.35v based on overclocking lists.
For the memory you just need to select DOCP in the bios and set it to 3200, the 8pack kit should run it without too much hassle, but if you have any stability issues/errors with memtest64, be sure to ask in the Ryzen thread.

Memtest64 link: https://www.techpowerup.com/memtest64/
HWInfo64 link (get the 64 bit version): https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
Prime95 link (get version 29.3, 64bit): https://www.mersenne.org/download/
Realbench link: https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/
 
right okay well my case has two fans at front, one at back then off course the cooler at top, at front will be 2 corsair sp120 led fans

Might be worth having the fans at the front running a little faster than the rest. Is the PSU pulling any air from inside the case?

That would be 4 exhausts and 2 intake all 120mm?
 
ive read good things about the ocuk 1060 dual 6gb

That is a good card, normally i would recommend the RX 580 purely because of better new API (DX 12 / Vulkan) future-proofing but because of the Coin Mining craze they are getting too expensive, now the 1060 does make more sense but whatever you do 'DO NOT' :) get the 3GB one... it is slower than the 6GB one, it has less Shaders and 3GB is nothing like enough Memory.
 
Might be worth having the fans at the front running a little faster than the rest. Is the PSU pulling any air from inside the case?

That would be 4 exhausts and 2 intake all 120mm?

all 120mm yes im not 100% how fans work in general like i say as its been a while since i rebuilt, so if you can elaborate in simple terms
 
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