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ryzen 5 1600 or 1600x

humbug said:
That is a good card, normally i would recommend the RX 580 purely because of better new API (DX 12 / Vulkan) future-proofing but because of the Coin Mining craze they are getting too expensive, now the 1060 does make more sense but whatever you do 'DO NOT' :) get the 3GB one... it is slower than the 6GB one, it has less Shaders and 3GB is nothing like enough Memory.
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ok thanks will do
 
AndreiD said:
It's not that difficult nowadays, I was just being overzealous.
Easy way to do it is memtest64 to validate your memory settings. You can run it in Windows and it will just use however much memory you have free for testings (be sure you close everything you have running). If you can get to >10 loops on >14000MB without any errors then you should be fine (it shouldn't take too long, <30 minutes).
To validate your CPU settings I'd suggest installing HWInfo64 for monitoring, it should offer the most accurate data and I'd suggest leaving Prime95 on "Blend" running overnight (usually if you don't get any errors after 3+ hours, you should be 99% fine). A faster way to do it would be to get Realbench and have it do a 30~60 minute stress test using all of your available RAM. You can do shorter stress tests if you want to risk things or longer if you want to make sure it's bedrock stable, but usually 3+ hours of Prime95 and/or 30 minutes of RealBench should be good enough to find most issues. Be sure to monitor temperatures and voltages while doing the stress testing.

The voltage limit which you should not pass is 1.425v for the CPU Vcore (with LLC Auto). Try 1.2v with 3.6Ghz or 1.3v with 3.8Ghz and see if you're stable. Most Ryzens should be able to reach 3.8Ghz with <1.35v based on overclocking lists.
For the memory you just need to select DOCP in the bios and set it to 3200, the 8pack kit should run it without too much hassle, but if you have any stability issues/errors with memtest64, be sure to ask in the Ryzen thread.

Memtest64 link: https://www.techpowerup.com/memtest64/
HWInfo64 link (get the 64 bit version): https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
Prime95 link (get version 29.3, 64bit): https://www.mersenne.org/download/
Realbench link: https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/
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right okay ill have too look into this more
 
That's for when you feel like tweaking, which can be fun in its own way. The system should run great even at stock settings :D
 
marco.da.man said:
can one of you guys answer a question on the cooling, when adding the fans on the rad do you bolt below or above the rad as ive heard different things like go above the rad so its sucks all heat out ?
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If you are having the rad at the top as an exhaust then you want the fans below it. From there they will be blowing the hot air out of the radiator.

If you have the radiator front mounted intake then you want the fans in front so they will blow cool air onto the radiator.
 
The RX580 on offer now is a good deal. I still feel it's overpriced at £249 but It's performance is decent and it's a solid card for DX12 and Vulkan.

I'd love to be able to upgrade my 290 but nothing makes sense just now.
 
DarkHorizon472 said:
On mine everything is on auto except the CPU multiplier which gives 3.7Ghz @ 1.2v max, the 3466 c15 @ 1.4v is simply the Stilts 3466 profile from the bios plus choosing the 3466 RAM divider. Also amended the fan profile to make it more aggressive and that is it using the 9920 BIOS.

No cold boot problems at all so far except when trying to run Hynix ram at beyond 2933. Which suggests some sort of system instability from overclocking, component choice etc. is having an impact or a BIOS issue otherwise I would be getting it as well.
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Because yours works doesn't mean they all will. We would all be running 3466 if it was that simple. It's down to the the individual cpu.
 
TallPaul1878 said:
If you are having the rad at the top as an exhaust then you want the fans below it. From there they will be blowing the hot air out of the radiator.

If you have the radiator front mounted intake then you want the fans in front so they will blow cool air onto the radiator.
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would i be best top mounting then like the others have said ?
 
marco.da.man said:
would i be best top mounting then like the others have said ?
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It depends on your case. If it will fit in front then put it there. There's a YouTube video knocking about that compared radiator placement. Basically if you are gaming then the heat from your graphics card will penetrate the top mounted radiator and increase the overall heat.

At the front then the graphics card heat does not interfere with the radiator.

Mine is top mounted because my Fractal Meshify C is very narrow and a large graphics card would touch the radiator. I also have a hybrid cooled graphics card so that has it's own rear mounted radiator. I mounted at the top so I can have my front case fans blowing cool air straight at the components.

If I were to change to a regular graphics card then I'd consider moving my radiator to the front.
 
marco.da.man said:
all 120mm yes im not 100% how fans work in general like i say as its been a while since i rebuilt, so if you can elaborate in simple terms
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You pretty much want to get close to positive pressure as possible. We are talking small gains and it's not super important.

On one of my case's I have 2x140mm high flow intakes and three 120MM exhausts with the front fans running slightly faster.
 
TallPaul1878 said:
It depends on your case. If it will fit in front then put it there. There's a YouTube video knocking about that compared radiator placement. Basically if you are gaming then the heat from your graphics card will penetrate the top mounted radiator and increase the overall heat.

At the front then the graphics card heat does not interfere with the radiator.

Mine is top mounted because my Fractal Meshify C is very narrow and a large graphics card would touch the radiator. I also have a hybrid cooled graphics card so that has it's own rear mounted radiator. I mounted at the top so I can have my front case fans blowing cool air straight at the components.

If I were to change to a regular graphics card then I'd consider moving my radiator to the front.
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much appreciatted thanks
 
marco.da.man said:
how does it compare to the 1060 wise ?
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RX580? They should be on par with each other overall, RX580 is faster if you play DX12/Vulkan games, 1060 6GB is faster for most DX11 games.
RX580 uses a lot more power though, you can see a review with the two GPUs compared here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2882-msi-rx-580-gaming-x-review-vs-gtx-1060?showall=1
Another review: https://www.techspot.com/review/1393-radeon-rx-580-vs-geforce-gtx-1060/

Either is fine in my opinion.
 
jigger said:
You pretty much want to get close to positive pressure as possible. We are talking small gains and it's not super important.

On one of my case's I have 2x140mm high flow intakes and three 120MM exhausts with the front fans running slightly faster.
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i have the kolink avaitar case so hopefully all be gd
 
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