Samsung F1 1TB

Speed · 18 Apr 2008 at 15:43

ih8modem said:
Last night after 2hours 14 mins it was on 49%. At that point I went to bed.

SO I estimate around 4 1/2 to 5 hours for full format.

I didn't think mine took that long, maybe 3 hours through Vista's Disk Management. Like people have said already, it always seems like a good idea to do a full format on a new drive, you can always be doing something else while it's formatting anyways.

As for the failures, it would be a different batch going to the USA so it could just be an issue with an early production run. I've not seen too many issues on UK forums either. Regardless I always run a full test using the manufacturer’s dos tester first and would never put anything I wasn't willing to lose on a brand new drive.

I expect most people are using them as storage drives and filling them with downloads, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Skyboat · 18 Apr 2008 at 16:03

tutu said:
Mine just arrived

It was a long wait - stupid City-Link went to the wrong house yesterday and left a card there.

I must say I am not very impressed with the packaging. Previous hard drives (from elsewhere) I've ordered we're much better protected than this. Can't say the name of the company due to the rules.

Dunno where you ordered from, but the place I got mine from had a nice plastic mould for the HDD, packed in with 2 air cushions either side, nice and snug

A2Z · 18 Apr 2008 at 16:07

Skyboat said:
Dunno where you ordered from, but the place I got mine from had a nice plastic mould for the HDD, packed in with 2 air cushions either side, nice and snug

exactly like mine

after reading all the city link stuff recently i was surprised to see them actually knock on my door, twice lol

yea i thought the format would take at least 4 hours...guess ill have to leave it till sunday when im back home

bluemoonmcfc · 18 Apr 2008 at 17:44

A2Z said:
exactly like mine

after reading all the city link stuff recently i was surprised to see them actually knock on my door, twice lol

yea i thought the format would take at least 4 hours...guess ill have to leave it till sunday when im back home

Yep same here mine came very well packaged

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One thing i will say is i bought mine at the weekend 2 off them when they were £94.99 + vat each, rang Overclockers up today and there refunding me the difference which is very good customer support

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Kainz · 18 Apr 2008 at 18:42

Mine also had the plastic mouldy case thing. This is a benchy of my F1 running off an eSATA Akakakasa enclosure.

Netvyper · 18 Apr 2008 at 21:11

My Disks werent all that well packaged, but not the worst i've had either.

the plastic case thingehs, inside bubble wrap envelopes in a box with some big air cushions. doesnt sound too bad, except when you notice that 2 of the disks were just sat on the bottom of the box

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I've run a full scan with HDUTIL on all 4 disks now though, not an issue so no problem. A workm8 who ordered 3 disks had 1 DOA though

I would imagine a full Format would take around 3hrs, same as a full surface scan, I get to do so on a 3tb logical disk, might take a bit longer /o\

HighlandeR · 18 Apr 2008 at 21:33

I hope this is the new price for these drives 99 quid for a 1TB.... thats fantastic

The other place had like 400 drives and 2 days after outta stock lol

Minstadave · 18 Apr 2008 at 22:29

HighlandeR said:
I hope this is the new price for these drives 99 quid for a 1TB.... thats fantastic

The other place had like 400 drives and 2 days after outta stock lol

Everyone is doing the £100 deal now it seems.

And the original place has well over 800 drives at one point, and has added 200 more several times.

hedgey · 18 Apr 2008 at 22:32

just a heads up, i've read that nvidia chipset boards dont like this drive, which could explain apparent 'DOA's.

Speed · 18 Apr 2008 at 22:37

Netvyper said:
My Disks werent all that well packaged, but not the worst i've had either.

the plastic case thingehs, inside bubble wrap envelopes in a box with some big air cushions. doesnt sound too bad, except when you notice that 2 of the disks were just sat on the bottom of the box .

I've run a full scan with HDUTIL on all 4 disks now though, not an issue so no problem. A workm8 who ordered 3 disks had 1 DOA though
I would imagine a full Format would take around 3hrs, same as a full surface scan, I get to do so on a 3tb logical disk, might take a bit longer /o\

Funny you should say that, mine was packaged exactly the same, but as I only ordered the one and a can of air duster it was fine. The rest of the box was filled with those air cushions.

hedgey said:
just a heads up, i've read that nvidia chipset boards dont like this drive, which could explain apparent 'DOA's.

Isn't that a bit general, there must be something more to it.

AbsenceJam · 18 Apr 2008 at 23:15

A full format is a pointless waste of time, all it does is add in error checking which you shouldn't be doing inside Windows. If you want to check for errors use the manufacturers utilities which does the disk as a whole, don't waste your time with full formats.

tutu · 19 Apr 2008 at 02:28

I've read that HUTIL (Samsungs Util) doesn't properly support this new drive yet!

I started a full format and left it as I had to goto "work". I would guess it took 3 - 4 hours.

BruceLee · 19 Apr 2008 at 02:31

Am I right in that you require a SATA2 port to install this, and then change it back to a SATA1 compatable drive?
Just asking as the SATA2 port on my motherboard seems to lock up the system if used.

Speed · 19 Apr 2008 at 08:18

tutu said:
I've read that HUTIL (Samsungs Util) doesn't properly support this new drive yet!

I started a full format and left it as I had to goto "work". I would guess it took 3 - 4 hours.

I read that myself, you get some kind of error, but when I tested my drive with it there was no such error and it worked fine. Could be down to the fact they released a new version a few days ago.

AbsenceJam said:
A full format is a pointless waste of time, all it does is add in error checking which you shouldn't be doing inside Windows. If you want to check for errors use the manufacturers utilities which does the disk as a whole, don't waste your time with full formats.

Surely when you first setup the drive in Windows Disk Management and it does a full format that's acceptable? I'd imagine if you were not suposed to be doing it in Windows there wouldn't be an option for it when you add a new disk.

sprognak · 19 Apr 2008 at 09:25

By the way, the problem isn't with these drives, it's with the Asus P5K series (P35 chipset) motherboards. I've RMA'ed 3 of them not working with these drives when set to AHCI or RAID and finally changed to an Asus IP35 Pro - which worked perfectly first time. Apparently the Asus P35 series buggers around on other drives too but the F1's are much worse with drives randomly dropping off the controller resulting in broken arrays/lost data.

If you have an Asus P35 chipset board, RMA it and get a real motherboard... I won't be touching Asus for a long long time to come.

*edit* the Samsung tool not working (falsly reporting errors) is a known issue, Samsung have said they are fixing it in the next update.

sprognak · 19 Apr 2008 at 09:35

4x RAID-5 on Abit IP35 Pro ICH9 E2200 4Gb OCZ Gold Vista

1kiwi · 19 Apr 2008 at 10:27

sprognak said:
By the way, the problem isn't with these drives, it's with the Asus P5K series (P35 chipset) motherboards. I've RMA'ed 3 of them not working with these drives when set to AHCI or RAID and finally changed to an Asus IP35 Pro - which worked perfectly first time. Apparently the Asus P35 series buggers around on other drives too but the F1's are much worse with drives randomly dropping off the controller resulting in broken arrays/lost data.

Hi, i too am trying to install a 1 tb F1 drive on my P5K using AHCI on XP and i'm getting a blue screen once its gets paste the loading of drivers

This is seriously ******* me off.

Speed · 19 Apr 2008 at 11:27

sprognak said:
By the way, the problem isn't with these drives, it's with the Asus P5K series (P35 chipset) motherboards. I've RMA'ed 3 of them not working with these drives when set to AHCI or RAID and finally changed to an Asus IP35 Pro - which worked perfectly first time. Apparently the Asus P35 series buggers around on other drives too but the F1's are much worse with drives randomly dropping off the controller resulting in broken arrays/lost data.

If you have an Asus P35 chipset board, RMA it and get a real motherboard... I won't be touching Asus for a long long time to come.

*edit* the Samsung tool not working (falsly reporting errors) is a known issue, Samsung have said they are fixing it in the next update.

Is the issue with the P35 chipset or just Asus motherboards with the P35 chipset?

As for the Samsung tool, they could well of fixed it as they've updated it recently and I never had any errors reported when I tested my Samsung F1. Although maybe again that's partly a chipset issue, only coming up when the drive is connected to a motherboard with a certain chipset.

Skyboat · 19 Apr 2008 at 11:58

Strange, my drive is working fine with the P5K-E.

Reality|Bites · 19 Apr 2008 at 12:13

maybe a bios issue with some Asus P35 boards then?