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Scottish Independance Referendum 2

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Kyo, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. eddiemcgarrigle

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    That England will come to us cap in hand for energy supplies, water, gas, oil, food, etc? Complete turnaround to what most English think of Scotland (although it's a perpetuated myth put forward by English media but you get the message).
     
  2. Nasher

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    Why would England go to Scotland when they are already buying these things from other nations? Or producing their own, afaik England actually produces a surplus of food and much of it is exported. Also England is building new nuclear power stations (while Scotland's are being decommissioned) and massive off-shore wind farms so will have energy sorted as well...

    Lets not forget Scotland joined the UK in the first place because it was broke!
     
  3. 200sols

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    Funny how people think leaving the EU is bad, yet think Scottish Independence is good, leaving an even closer and more integrated union it would be a mess of even greater proportions than Brexit.
     
  4. Lartyconshayo

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    Argument works the other way though surely ?
     
  5. JeditOjanen

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    I just don't know where to start with what is wrong with this. North Sea oil production is down more than half on its peak, and the price is also down by half on its peak. And Scotland has the smallest proportion of arable land of any part of the UK, so it won't be shipping food anywhere.
     
  6. D3K

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    So much wrong in all these posts
    A surplus of food yet begs off the public to contribute to food banks.
    The French are building 'our' power stations that happen to lie inside England. You can keep them we'll refashion the faslane subs to be little power stations.
    The whole country is dotted with wind farms. Offshore is just another geographic location with enough cons to have left it unfeasible for the last 20 years. Even now it takes a ballsy investment to do it.
    Not sure which figures you're quoting but the barrel prices are comparable to the price at the last referendum. Not to mention the massive haul found by BP which could last another 30 years.
    Who says all food must be grown from the land?
    Just take a look at the UKs top exports. Drive into the detail there, see what stands out...

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  7. Bald-Eagle22

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    Oh no , has Robert the Bruce ( Jimmy Crancky ) been at it again ? Let them have it , I’ll even help rebuild the wall .
     
  8. eddiemcgarrigle

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    So much love.
     
  9. lovelyhead

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    Better together! Lead the Union! A NO vote is a vote to remain in the EU! Etc. Etc.
     
  10. sigma

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    Nope, looks like it's 76% but actually 50% if you take out exports.
     
  11. ubersonic

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    Well, yeah but (another) one o them will be in Wales xD
     
  12. StuBob

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-46259459?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5bf423726c10aa067361037c&Spanish minister: 'UK will split before we do'&2018-11-20T15:35:43.727Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:166c1fe8-9baf-49ce-b6c2-9e2adb876697&pinned_post_asset_id=5bf423726c10aa067361037c&pinned_post_type=share

    Another one debunked again...
     
  13. StriderX

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    Oh ****, that sass. Westminster would have so much more success being legitimate if it didn't constantly use gunboat diplomacy on everything, now it's reaping the consequences when the country desperately needed allies, instead has nothing but enemies.
     
  14. JeditOjanen

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    Another rumour about Scottish independence that was debunked today is the rumour that the SNP are anything other than Tories. Nicola "Leaving the EU is grounds for a second Indyref" Sturgeon just declared that she'd swing the SNP to back May's Brexit plan. Last time a government tottered so badly as this one was Labour in 1978. And where were the SNP then? Shock horror - they were backing the Tories.
     
  15. eddiemcgarrigle

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    Proof?
     
  16. StuBob

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    I'm sorry but this one has gone completely over my head? :confused:
     
  17. iamtheoneneo

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    Sturgeon and Spanish lol. They talk the talk but nothing will ever happen.

    They just love to mouth off alot.
     
  18. JeditOjanen

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    The Guardian, two days ago.
     
  19. eddiemcgarrigle

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    You expect an English newspaper to tell the truth about Scottish politics? Even the Scottish rags don't tell the truth about the SNP. You'll excuse me though, I thought it must have been the Daily Mail.

    If you want to know the SNP policy on Brexit, try and convince Channel 4 to have devolved parliament representation on it's upcoming Brexit debate. Only English parties involved, which gives no thought to anyone outside England even though this effects us all.
     
  20. JeditOjanen

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    Eddie, you're going full "fake news" here. You need to take a step back from this thread.