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Seagate shipping 8tb drives

Discussion in 'Storage Drives' started by oxygene, Dec 12, 2014.

  1. SplitCoreGaming

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    No official data apart from what ive found based on early adopters usage. They say they are fine for 24/7, as long as you do large writes/reads, as they seem to be slower than normal hdd's based on random seek/write times. A few have commented that the speed seems to be reduced greatly in hot environments. Again nothing backed up with evidence so take lightly.

    People report around a good 150 write speed. I am hoping to Raid 0 two up as a recording drive for 21:9 game captures at 60fps with 5.1 sound for editing later. If I find any real statistics I will link them over as I am still debating if they will truly suit my needs, or if I should invest in smaller, but proven faster drives for raid.
     
  2. LordBarrass

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    I have had 1 8TB drive turn up and get booked in stock. So if you want it move quickly. The next ones will be around 3 - 4 weeks.
     
  3. SplitCoreGaming

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    Wow 3-4 Weeks!? What is going on with these? I just dived on it and willing to pay extra to acquire it earlier. I also realised the craziness of my 2x 8TB Raid 0 for recording. So instead grabbed me 2x Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB with the Seagate Archive Nearline 8.0TB being what it was designed to be, archiving.

    In all honesty once I do some testing and benchmarks I might be tempted to purchase a few more. Will upload data here to help others once it arrives.
    I love diving into the deep end with new, unproven technology. The fun and games that might accrue :(
     
  4. jak731

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    One batch or one drive? Rarer than hens teeth. I think this is the cheapest cost per tb drive on ocuk.
     
  5. easyrider

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    Are theses rated for 24/7 use ?
     
  6. Lord Alibaski

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    This is whats stated from the date sheet so looking at it then maybe but with less performance.

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    Taken from here
     
  7. mrbazmondo

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    The only problem is that you have to buy at least 2 and RAID them, otherwise how much data are you going to lose if it dies?
     
  8. kona786

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    I guess ~8TB...am i right??
     
  9. Methanoid

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    If we are gonna be smart arses here I might as well point out the answer is UP to 8TB, and to be completely correct it is UP to 7.2TB :p
     
  10. kona786

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    7.27TB :p

    In other news, my 8TB is now has 1TB free. Backup complete.
     
  11. mw8t

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    This has always been the case :confused:
     
  12. Amp34

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    Or you use them for what they are designed for - as an archive HDD to use in case your primary drive(s) go pop!:p
     
  13. Trifid

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    I personally would just use them as individual drives and not RAID them for home use. Use a program to sink across weekly/monthly.
     
  14. hernaldo

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    True, that way of thinking always makes me laugh out of shame in the human race.
     
  15. Stu

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    Why does this question come up all the time, and why do people assume to know what the plans of others are? I'm getting one of these to use as a backup drive in my microserver, and don't feel the need for a second drive to backup my backup (let's ignore the fact that RAID1 is not a backup solution).
     
  16. Stu

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    Nice review at Storage Review, which also highlights that these drives are NOT suitable for RAID redundancy setups, including RAID1.
     
  17. Raggy

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    Thanks for that link, and a lot of food for thought.
     
  18. hernaldo

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    Crikey....if that lots true, this is going to to nuclear.

    I can't imagine many people NOT buying these for a RAID/NAS/ZFS setup!

    If those test results turn out to be correct, I'll be returning mine as not fit for purpose and suing the retailer in small claims if I get any bs.

    If true, how utterly disappointing.

    57 hours for a straight RAID1 2 drive rebuild!!!!!? :confused:
    I think they've made a collection of mistakes or got a bad drive personally.

    EDIT - Actually reading their forum discussing this, sounds like they know what they're talking about...

    Oh dear.
     
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  19. mw8t

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    These are perfect for me, I will be buying 2. 1 will go in my NAS, the other as an offline backup. I don't use raid or a fancy filesystem, just standalone drives and Windows share.

    Storing 1:1 Blu-ray rips
     
  20. SplitCoreGaming

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    As promised here are my benchmarks using HD Tune Pro

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqn5f9a5n8gaqoo/09-March-2015_00-08.png?dl=0

    &

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/np56b4l9k6v32bv/09-March-2015_00-12.png?dl=0

    Speed wise they ain't that bad, though they do seem to spike as I just filled the full 8tb moving around my other drives to re partition them. Sometimes it just bottoms during transfer almost making it look like the transfer crashed.

    I got another one arriving tomorrow from another supplier to remove a older 2tb so will be interesting to compare the two if they have the same issues.