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Serious family legal issue

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by singularity, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. singularity

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 2, 2007

    Posts: 1,019

    Hi all
    I would appreciate someone in the know sharing any relevant knowledge they may have.
    This is the tip of an ice berg.

    I have a grandson, the father of which is my son.

    The mother has a step father in a very screwed up complex family.

    Anyhow up until now the mother of the mother has in a thinly veiled manner try to get money out of me. Because the mother is spending all her benefits on drink an drugs (not a large amount).

    Anyway, add that we have no access to the child and they are dragging my son through the courts to stop him having access, all of their claims have been proven false.

    Finally I have received this from step father (his sole contribution)

    'Hi ***** this is **'***s husband.
    I don't agree with the snide comments you are making about ****. But let me say i also have a comfortable life and and a very well paid job. I believe the mother is in the best place for her and (my son) to sort things out if i bring mother back in to the family home like you keep going on about (my son) will not see the child for a very long time as i will fight it all the way and i dont think anybody wants that. If you or your family can not support this then i will get involved.'

    He has two of his own kids in his house and has no room, the mother has been in social housing but has got in arrears on the rent the council are moving her into other social housing.

    The mother's family have thrown her out on several occasions and at times she has been sofa surfing.

    My son pays child support and has bought clothes and shoes for his son on the rare occasion that he has been allowed contact.

    What do you think?

    I have considered letter box, gucci belt and boxing stance.
  2. bainbridge


    Joined: Dec 9, 2009

    Posts: 3,109

    Location: Bristol

    I'd recommend your son gets legal advice and if you can support him doing that then great.
  3. LuckyBenski


    Joined: Dec 28, 2017

    Posts: 2,883

    Location: London

    The question is, as the kid's dad's dad, shouldn't you be twice as good at identifying Queen Wasps?


    Sorry I can't contribute something useful though, this sounds like a difficult situation for you :(
  4. NoobCannon


    Joined: Jun 13, 2011

    Posts: 4,586

    Not sure if its just too early in the morning but ops post made no sense what so ever.

    Compounded by the (i assume copy and pasted) drivel from someone speaking to the op. Is there a hungover Sunday morning tldr version?
  5. cheesyboy


    Joined: Dec 7, 2012

    Posts: 11,383

    Location: Gloucestershire

    Can't quite follow the narrative in op. Are you able to clear it up a bit?
  6. bartledvd


    Joined: Jan 13, 2012

    Posts: 643

    Location: n.wales Rhuddlan

    You say you have considered the Gucci belt but he also claims to have a well paid job i think it is important to establish which of you is the real top revenue earner.

    Best option is to go to court with people like this then it is clear who has what rights if you can afford to help your son get the best lawyer then do so it will be slow and ugly.
  7. peterwalkley


    Joined: Feb 23, 2009

    Posts: 3,078

    Location: South Wirral


    Don't hand over a penny, ever. Once that sort of parasite thinks they have you it will never end.

    I think my response would involve the word 'off' and possibly to tell them to sort their own daughter out instead of attempting to badly parent a grand-child and turn them into an addict too. Alcohol may be legal, but its often far more harmful than many of the illegal drugs on offer.
  8. booyaka


    Joined: Jan 19, 2006

    Posts: 12,525

    You thread title says it all - Get proper legal advice for your son.....Anything involving children/rights to see them etc is a complex, emotional and difficult subject to give any factual comment on.

    Good luck and be there for your son, ignore all comments and contact from the other side.
  9. [FnG]magnolia


    Joined: Aug 29, 2007

    Posts: 25,766

    Location: Bees.

    This is not real.

    Also, Rock and Roll, deal with it.

    e: not sure, ****, deal with it.
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  10. singularity

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 2, 2007

    Posts: 1,019

    OK thanks guys just wanted to check I wasn't missing something.

    Tldr if I don't pay them then they won't let my son see his son,
    And they're all dodgy as hell
  11. chaparral


    Joined: Nov 27, 2005

    Posts: 19,318

  12. mrbell1984


    Joined: Aug 9, 2008

    Posts: 20,555

    Then there is only one thing to do, don't see his son :) if his son wants to see you he will find a way without letting money get in the way don't go low to their bribes!
  13. singularity

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 2, 2007

    Posts: 1,019

    Problem is my grand son is 11 months and my son really wants to see him so..
  14. mrbell1984


    Joined: Aug 9, 2008

    Posts: 20,555

    Then if it's your sons child he is going to need to go to fight for him in court through child services by the sounds of it. Don't be handing over money for threats. If you going to pay for something properly pay a solicitor to fight that corner.

    You have to pay them nothing it's not up to you to give them money really is it?
  15. TheOracle


    Joined: Sep 30, 2005

    Posts: 11,024

    My brain died halfway up that family tree
  16. Terminal_Boy


    Joined: Apr 13, 2013

    Posts: 6,546

    Location: La France

    OP’s son needs to get proper legal advice from a family law specialist.
  17. VoG


    Joined: Jan 20, 2004

    Posts: 5,622

    Location: Nottingham

    Yup, any thing else is just an utter waste of time.
  18. String


    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 11,666

    It's there any chance of you hitting the mother, like, in a sexy way?
  19. singularity

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 2, 2007

    Posts: 1,019

    I don't recommend it
  20. String


    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 11,666

    No muff too tough mate, and if it's going to cost you money anyways....