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Shadow Secretary of State's son done for drug dealing.

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Chris Wilson, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. Dis86

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    Oh you've changed your argument now. 2 minutes ago it was it's nobodies business what people do to their own bodies...
     
  2. StriderX

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    Have I? What has my argument changed from? Both arguments are valid, independently.
     
  3. Dis86

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    I've literally just told you what you've changed your argument from.
     
  4. krooton

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    Extreme cases exist for everthing, there are plenty of crazies doing crazy things without any drug involvement, and we don't ban peanute butter because it can instantly kill some people.

    The war on drugs is a stupid waste of time, money and lives.
     
  5. Dis86

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    But the violent/dangerous tendencies and actions of drug users aren't extreme cases. For many drugs they're quite frankly the norm.
     
  6. darkgen

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    In the meanwhile her mother was made a peer in the House of Lords yesterday;
    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2018-12-04a.925.0

    Nepotism much.
     
  7. Evangelion

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    ^^ This.

    Standard retail practice. They're called loss leaders.
     
  8. Evangelion

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    What disgusts me is the way she has handled the situation. Or rather, mishandled it.

    (Source).

    This woman is not fit for office.
     
  9. doodah

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    Labour aren't having a great time with younger generation MPs making very silly decisions concerning family members and lying to the police.
     
  10. VincentHanna

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    Younger generation? She's 50!
     
  11. doodah

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    :p:p:p:p:p:o. I saw her picture in the Guardian article and thought she was a lot younger than 50. Oops. And it was in reference to that idiot who clearly lied about her speeding ticket.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Avenged7Fold

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    What ever happened to her?

    I really they throw the book at her. If she was trying to wiggle out of the fine by saying she admits wrong and requests leniency for her service, then i would have not had much issue (who wouldnt try that one?) but she lied, got her brother to lie and blamed it on her friend...

    This person is meant to be an MP...
     
  13. VincentHanna

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    Jury couldn't decide if she was guilty or not so there is going to be a re-trial.
     
  14. Jonnybmac

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    You've lived a sheltered life if that's what you presume happens to anyone who takes drugs
     
  15. Dis86

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    I never said it happens to anyone who takes drugs, it does happen to some though.
     
  16. krooton

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    And to those that don't, so your point is a bit fuzzy.
     
  17. Dis86

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    The point isn't fuzzy. There's a risk that anyone who uses mind altering substances can have a bad experience. Aside from the extreme case that I've mentioned there the links between drug use and violent behaviour are well proven and without academic dispute.
     
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