We were referencing the middle east within this context.Iran != arabs.
However, Persian, Arab, Jewish, it matters little.
We were referencing the middle east within this context.Iran != arabs.
We were referencing the middle east within this context.
However, Persian, Arab, Jewish, it matters little.
We were referencing the middle east within this context.
However, Persian, Arab, Jewish, it matters little.
We were referencing the middle east within this context.
However, Persian, Arab, Jewish, it matters little.
Actually in military terms it makes a huge difference! There's a reason that Israel have repeatedly kicked the crap out of those that tried to invade vs those invaders who repeatedly have the crap kicked out of them by everyone.
https://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
Worth a read.
It matters quite a bit.
You've gotta be kidding, the difference in level of competence of the Israelis vs the typical Arab army is huge.
Not that all Arab army's are incompetent - Jordan is a notable exception and has a well trained, professional force. Some other countries in the region are LOL-worthy though - lots of nepotism and incompetence, tribal politics, enlisted personnel treated like **** there is a whole load of very backwards cultural baggage to deal with in some of these places.
Which is where my comment mainly focused.Although the problems with military efficiency in that part of the world is more complex than that.
Your last paragraph containing the exception would show that it does actually matter little. Concentrating on the region and grouping in militarial incompetence is nothing more than stereotyping a vast area and contrast of people.
Same as the Iraqi army probably, drop their weapons and run.Be curious to see how they'd deal with a direct engagement.
Basically the Crux of it, to be honest I'm more surprised Israel is as restrained as it is, hundreds of rockets launched at their citizens and threats of annihilation, the US has used nukes for less.Actually in military terms it makes a huge difference! There's a reason that Israel have repeatedly kicked the crap out of those that tried to invade vs those invaders who repeatedly have the crap kicked out of them by everyone.
https://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
Worth a read.
This is true I guess, as we were speaking collectively. My bad.The exception doesn't show that because it is that... an exception!
From the 4th strongest military in the world... to zilch.Same as the Iraqi army probably, drop their weapons and run.
Iran isn't anything like Iraq and nor is it's military, this video here explains the major points, while am 100% sure we would win the fight, it be Iraq 2 and Afghanistan 2 but worst than both of them, it be a real nightmare.
Some youtube footage of the latest apparent Saudi setback:
(warning briefly shows graphic footage on occasion)
My goodness, did you come up with that by yourself!? You're wasted here.adverb
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in a satisfactory manner or to a satisfactory extent; fairly well.
It's a shame we're at this point where we're discussing the real possibility of a conflict with Iran. I guess the Persian and SA standoff has long been coming to a head though, it's pretty much prophesied.Ultimately Iran has no way of taking the attack to Western military production (other than individual cases of isolated sabotage/terrorism) while those arrayed against them can bomb Iran's military production and to a degree any re-supply they might get from external backers at relative will.
I think if any war did kick off the US/SA will likely underestimate Iran again and initial confrontation would be bloody with many stupid and needless losses but ultimately I suspect that the tide would quickly turn against Iran.
Unlike Iraq where the vast majority of the armed forces had zero motivation to fight Iran does have a larger number of hardline forces who wouldn't just roll over at the first sounds of gunfire.
Ultimately Iran has no way of taking the attack to Western military production (other than individual cases of isolated sabotage/terrorism) while those arrayed against them can bomb Iran's military production and to a degree any re-supply they might get from external backers at relative will.
I think if any war did kick off the US/SA will likely underestimate Iran again and initial confrontation would be bloody with many stupid and needless losses but ultimately I suspect that the tide would quickly turn against Iran.
Unlike Iraq where the vast majority of the armed forces had zero motivation to fight Iran does have a larger number of hardline forces who wouldn't just roll over at the first sounds of gunfire.
That and the fact that they just blindly spray ammo in the rough direction of the enemy and then pray that Allah guides the bullets. Bunch of ******* idiots, the lot of them.
Some youtube footage of the latest apparent Saudi setback:
(warning briefly shows graphic footage on occasion)
I can't currently figure out what the attack on the refinery is meant to prove, assuming it is legitimately Iran, which seems likely, then clearly the US defence shield is either utterly **** or non-existent.
It's a shame we're at this point where we're discussing the real possibility of a conflict with Iran. I guess the Persian and SA standoff has long been coming to a head though, it's pretty much prophesied.