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Why are Audi still using physical shifters on brand new models? Do you have to manually put it into Park each time etc?
Seems odd given that digital ones have been around for years now and were standard on the Jaguar XF as long ago as 2007.
Seems odd given that digital ones have been around for years now and were standard on the Jaguar XF as long ago as 2007.
Probably for the same reason as an awful lot of other manufacturers.
New Auto BMW's have physical sticks too, though I'm not sure how they work, I never get to drive any of the work BMW's with auto's, only the manuals.
I assume they are basically the same as the one in Blackhawks Audi though, aside from the fact that they are much smaller and neatly designed, and possibly put it in park automatically without having to move the stick?
A Jaguar XF isn't really a comparable car is it.
New Auto BMW's have physical sticks too, though I'm not sure how they work, I never get to drive any of the work BMW's with auto's, only the manuals.
I assume they are basically the same as the one in Blackhawks Audi though, aside from the fact that they are much smaller and neatly designed, and possibly put it in park automatically without having to move the stick?
A Jaguar XF isn't really a comparable car is it.
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Probably for the same reason as an awful lot of other manufacturers.
New Auto BMW's have physical sticks too, though I'm not sure how they work, I never get to drive any of the work BMW's with auto's, only the manuals.
I assume they are basically the same as the one in Blackhawks Audi though, aside from the fact that they are much smaller and neatly designed, and possibly put it in park automatically without having to move the stick?
A Jaguar XF isn't really a comparable car is it.
Another daily WTF Acme post
BMW started doing away with physical shifters back in 2003 with the launch of the E65 7-Series which has an electronic one. No BMW for years has had a manual shifter, you probably have to go back to around 2007/8 for the last ones....
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A stick yes, but it's not a physical movement through a selector. It's all electronic, more akin to the movement involved with moving a sequential box up/down.
Brand new BMW's have a bloody stick in the middle!!!
Its called a "smart shifter" or something, but you still move it in order to do things!
Its an electronic joystick connected to some wires which has buttons on it. The Audi one is a manual shifter like you get in much older cars which pulls cables to operate the gearbox functions.
Fox is asking why do Audi continue to use an ancient style of gear selection
The argument was not one of "a device" existing where the shift mechanism usually presents itself in the center console. The argument was one of still using "gated" mechanical selectors, rather than being electronic, regardless of shape. The XF has a "stick" (read selector), it's just not stick shaped.
Stop digging.
Well I assume because they are still using the S-Tronic system which includes a shifter which requires physical movement, and they haven't changed it yet because it is perfectly fine for this sort of car. There is an electronic system in the A8 as far as I'm aware, so they do have the capability I suppose...
I don't see why it matters?
I don't see why it matters?
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Have you heard of the phrase "rhetorical question"?
Have you heard of the phrase "pointless question"?
It has a physical shifter because it does. Lots of other cars do too. It isn't unusual in the slightest. Audi just haven't decided to implement an electronic system yet.
Shock horror, you have to move a stick to do things! Heaven forbid...
It has a physical shifter because it does. Lots of other cars do too. It isn't unusual in the slightest. Audi just haven't decided to implement an electronic system yet.
Shock horror, you have to move a stick to do things! Heaven forbid...
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Have you heard of the phrase "pointless question"?
It has a physical shifter because it does. Lots of other cars do too. It isn't unusual in the slightest.
Shock horror, you have to move a stick to do things! Heaven forbid...
Lets be clear: Fox asked a rhetorical question to make a point that it is fairly outdated to use a mechanical shifter in a 2016 car being sold for a premium price
No it doesn't, otherwise the wheel-mounted paddles would do the square root of diddly-squat.
Fine just the stick has to be moved. Which is what I meant...
Like say, the stick in a brand new Porsche!
But thats fine, Porsches are cheap as chips right?