Soldato
Theres at least 5 obvious in the thread linked still not been sorted.
Signature advertising personal small business not allowed?
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Their isn't enough dons to moderate all of the posts on this forum, in my experience it comes down to personal preference most of the time, people seem to get away with murder while others get suspended for very little things.
I remember when you used to get suspended for calling someone an *** (donkey) or an **** (backside).
Things change as the dons change and things become more acceptable and the norm.
The RTM post should be used by forum members when posts are offencive/trolling/de-railing threads not enforcing the FAQ.
But thats just my opinion.
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Any update on this or no admins online?
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Your guess is as good as ours matey, it all boils down to dons personal preference in the end.
I think it should be okay to have 'services' advertised in sigs, or whatever, as long as it isn't PC hardware etc, as thats a direct competitor isn't it...? Whereas PC services is a different thing and not neccessarily a direct competitor..
Without it being written down properly, its never going to get inforced
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I ask as Burnsy specifically pointed to a thread on the subject where half the posters have links to their buisnesses (albeit it secondary) and as Morba has pointed things go un-checked in the Motors forum and even promoting of friends club nights is allowed.
I'm not sure what the OP's sig was advertising but some clarification would be nice instead of things being glanced over, as I said if it's been moved to the DR for discussion with Admins/Spie then fine but atleast in the mean time follow suit and remove those with sigs linking any buisness as those in the photography forum.
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Some of them have been logged in today. They are not online now.
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Half the advertising sigs have gone now so looks like someone got the finger out.
Where does the line stop with regards to 'advertising'?
My sig links to my flickr, which openly advertises my photography work and have a contact me page for services. The same goes to my blog/website CJP and DA page. IF and when someone recommends me, I post in the same thread, there's my email address in my sig too for people to contact me, along with Trust.
Where do we draw the line on advertising then? Primary page service or does that include secondary pages like blogs, flickr, deviantART or whatever resources people use on top of directly stating their provided service in sig?
My sig links to my flickr, which openly advertises my photography work and have a contact me page for services. The same goes to my blog/website CJP and DA page. IF and when someone recommends me, I post in the same thread, there's my email address in my sig too for people to contact me, along with Trust.
Where do we draw the line on advertising then? Primary page service or does that include secondary pages like blogs, flickr, deviantART or whatever resources people use on top of directly stating their provided service in sig?
Soldato
Yeah but some in that thread still have their sites embedded in their sig.
Atleast we seem to have the answer. Even if its the wrong one imo.
KaHn
You asked tfor them to enforce the rule ore so they started enforcing it.
but I dunno about the mods but im guessing the don't mouse over every part of multi pic sigs to check links all that often (when it's not obvious) so they ask for RTM's and you refuse to then complain that not all the sigs are gone because they might not have been noticed because no one rtm'd them.
I really don't get how you thought complaining about relaxed rule enforcement would ever result in rule change (for more complicated moderating and rules) instead of just a quick clean up sticking to the word of the current rule.
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First, I agree that this forum belong to OCUK and it's owners so they run as they see fit. However, I can't help but to point these out.
My sig, for example has been in place for 3 years (when the site when live), with 27,000 posts to my name, one would think it's enough notice for the mods to spot it or say something. One could argue that because of the time passed, an implied consent was given for the sig to stay because of the duration of time has gone. An element of estopple may be even valid here.
Then there is also the grey area.
Where is the point of advertising drawn?
Is it my website? the Contact Page? The Cost page? Or is it even my name?
I know I am known around here for taking wedding photos, so does posting a photo from a wedding counts as "promotion"?
Does the watermark counts as promotion? Do I have to start putting photos up without watermarks? Does that mean I even have to change my name?
What if I create a separate site displaying just photos? With no offers of service.
Then it will be just a gallery, like flickr.
My sig, for example has been in place for 3 years (when the site when live), with 27,000 posts to my name, one would think it's enough notice for the mods to spot it or say something. One could argue that because of the time passed, an implied consent was given for the sig to stay because of the duration of time has gone. An element of estopple may be even valid here.
Then there is also the grey area.
Where is the point of advertising drawn?
Is it my website? the Contact Page? The Cost page? Or is it even my name?
I know I am known around here for taking wedding photos, so does posting a photo from a wedding counts as "promotion"?
Does the watermark counts as promotion? Do I have to start putting photos up without watermarks? Does that mean I even have to change my name?
What if I create a separate site displaying just photos? With no offers of service.
Then it will be just a gallery, like flickr.
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Soldato
I aksed for them to make their mind up one way or another, since a don posted a thread stating the answer (where the people posting in that thread still had their websites showing) then not doing anything kinda gives confusion.
I could understand if it was something like www.cheapcomputerpartsherenow.co.uk etc etc but it wasn't, and I doubt the OP's was the same.
I remember when a member had a printing company (family owned) and he used to tell people of his site anytime and print requests came up, yet that wasn't stopped.
My problem is not with the rules per say, just how some seem to be relaxed for other members then enforced to the 'T' for others.
As my previous post said stated the influx of common swear words coming in to every day posting.
As for the RTM function I've explained my stance on that as its should not be the members function to monitor advertising stuff.
But my main point has been the lack of communication from those above.
KaHn
RTm them then if you think it breaks the rules.
It's one of the main reasons for RTM's though
Soldato
As I said I imo Advertising is like stating cheap computer parts from different shops.
I would hope that common sense prevailed in this manor small non-related businesses were ignored within reason .i.e. links to personal company websites in sigs.
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The way I see it.
The rule was in place so they can't change it or backtrack, not a rule like advertising anyway (it is a standard rule and kinda important), and in a way they KNOW this is happening (my site for example). But they chose to turn a blind eye to it as it was just taking photographs (1 man band), but Phate's thread and this thread and forced to powers that be to do something about it. They ignored it almost for a couple of days, you can see no people hardly posted here, but a few keep bumping it up for confirmation....so they had to do something...I would, if I was in their shoes.
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Its already been pointed flckr and deviantart art are fine as long as there not plastered with I do weddings and phone me for cost.
It all seems quite simple dont have numbers and I do weddings slapped over whats a blatant commercial website. You want to show photos post them on flckr etc
It all seems quite simple dont have numbers and I do weddings slapped over whats a blatant commercial website. You want to show photos post them on flckr etc
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