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the_box said:
who said anything about hacking skys router i am talking about using a router off my own!

Some details are hard coded into the sky router such as your username I think and this is what you would need to "hack" out of it.
 
All of your details are embedded into the provided router so you have to modify the firmware or "hack" into the router in order to get the details for use with another router.
 
Why do sky like to be so controlling and limiting to the customer, they may get away with it for their sky boxes but it takes the **** when they just entered the isp market and start forcing something as stupid as this, seriously who do they think they are, this sort of thing gets on my nerves tbh, what right do they have to do this compared to other isp's? :rolleyes:

I know i shouldn't really care and its not like anyones forced to use their service but its the principle of the thing and sky think they can get away with allsorts.
 
that gets on my goat, if they decide you use there router then you use it, it has auto updating firmware and nearly every feature you could want.

you dont like it you dont sign up. The T&C are freely available before you sign up.

They are a company and as such how you use there product and hardware is upto them.

and as for your username and password its not the same as the welcome letter, its built into the router and password is generated from the mac address of the router.

*imo dont like it tough
 
DAvE18 said:
that gets on my goat, if they decide you use there router then you use it, it has auto updating firmware and nearly every feature you could want.

you dont like it you dont sign up. The T&C are freely available before you sign up.

They are a company and as such how you use there product and hardware is upto them.

and as for your username and password its not the same as the welcome letter, its built into the router and password is generated from the mac address of the router.

*imo dont like it tough

Are you able to use the rest of the features on the router and customise them as you would your own?

They will not get as many customers this way as people want to use their own equiptment and setups, not one's which are forced upon them.

You're right, no one HAS to sign up and sky are entitled to have their own policies, but IMO they won't get as many customers the way they are going about things now.

They could say that they standardise their kit to help with tech support, but again, from the stories i've heard this is a little to be desired too!

The hardware issues, ping rates and poor customer service is what is putting me off signing up for what 'appears' to be a very good deal.

Shame....
 
Yes m8 except the basic adsl setup page with username and password you have access to all the features. :)

I can see your point, its just the way some people put it across as if its there god given right to use there own router when its clear they dont :p
 
DAvE18 said:
that gets on my goat, if they decide you use there router then you use it, it has auto updating firmware and nearly every feature you could want.

you dont like it you dont sign up. The T&C are freely available before you sign up.

They are a company and as such how you use there product and hardware is upto them.

and as for your username and password its not the same as the welcome letter, its built into the router and password is generated from the mac address of the router.

*imo dont like it tough

I thought i made it clear that at least i know these facts and im sure most people who have similar concerns for such practices do as well, its the average joe who doesn't know or care about such things, theres always someone like you though who has to come along and either plays devils advocate or genuinely thinks something like this from big business is ok when the majority of honest people sees it as wrong, so i will ask do you like such practices and find them a 'good' thing taking into consideration everything i've said as well as what you just did?
 
I geniunley that this is okay, as I said its there buisness and they can run it however they wish, and seeing as sky bb is designed for the masses not those of us who want or need to use our router then its perfectly fine for them to make you use there router as part of the tcs. It makes support a lot better for the agents and as such provides more of a chance for them to get the problem solved.

hence why they also dont provide support if you use your own wireless card or dongle. is that also not acceptable?
 
The freedom of choice is the highest right we have and as theres no acceptable reason for such a practice its wrong by default, you can side with sky all you want but nothing you've said has made it any more acceptable in a free market, sky are no exception and they should abide by fair practices, you got to remember companies are not individuals (even though strangely they are allowed some of the same rights) and they often lack the same moral judgement that an individual has, so no its not ok for them to do what they please.
 
Yes i asked what you actually felt was right or wrong and if you liked this sort of limiting thing as you appeared to be simply putting out pro sky comments which do seem a little suspect to me when you see the majority of people actually not agreeing with such practices, do you or have you ever worked for sky in any way etc?
 
lol sky support i thought they had monkeys just reading scripts. well they did`nt know what interleaving was 1 guy told me it as todo with the wireless router and another said it was a feature of the router. sky support :rolleyes:
 
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