slow progress/losing will power

Mr.Stu said:
Perhaps chong means that most of the fat in egg yolk is unsaturated, and certainly NOT trans fat!
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Trans-fat is artifically made, so it wouldn't be inside an egg any way!

I know what Chong's referring to, and I've read comments on other forums about egg cholesterol but I've seen no studies to corroborate this.
 
only skipped across the replies but noticed nothing ot do with what i am thinking, so will post it :D

one of the biggest reasons in my mind for losing will power and slow progress is porr goal setting.

if you set yourself some SMART goals you can track your progress better, you can also celebrate more often.

i know people go on about diet (myself included), but a major factor that people forget is what is going on in your brain. regular achievments will help push you onwards in your goals.
being Jay Cutler is a goal (as an example), however, there are a million and one achievements to be had before becoming like Jay.

think SMART, train SMART :]
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Trans-fat is artifically made, so it wouldn't be inside an egg any way!

I know what Chong's referring to, and I've read comments on other forums about egg cholesterol but I've seen no studies to corroborate this.
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Dietry cholesterol has negligable effect on blood levels.
 
R5Rich said:
Not cutting no, I stopped creatine few weeks back now.
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Can i ask why you came off creatine?

I had to come off the stuff because i was getting a silly amount of muscle strains, i mean, even just turning my head could cause pulled neck muscles regularly! I've never suffered as many pulled muscles as i did when on creatine. I always kept myself well hydrated too.

Good news was that i suffered no strength loss whatsoever (which was totally unexpected) when i came off CEE. Needless to say, i'm never going to take the stuff again.
 
Morba said:
only skipped across the replies but noticed nothing ot do with what i am thinking, so will post it :D

one of the biggest reasons in my mind for losing will power and slow progress is porr goal setting.

if you set yourself some SMART goals you can track your progress better, you can also celebrate more often.

i know people go on about diet (myself included), but a major factor that people forget is what is going on in your brain. regular achievments will help push you onwards in your goals.
being Jay Cutler is a goal (as an example), however, there are a million and one achievements to be had before becoming like Jay.

think SMART, train SMART :]
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That's right, but that's only a factor if his diet is right, which it clearly isn't ;)

You can't build a wall with no bricks, as you know well ;)
 
Chong Warrior said:
Dietry cholesterol has negligable effect on blood levels.
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Read the article, it states moderate use of one egg a day. I use 5 at least, there's no way I am eating 5 eggs, why take the risk at all?

Just my view BTW - I respect your right to disagree ;)
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Read the article, it states moderate use of one egg a day. I use 5 at least, there's no way I am eating 5 eggs, why take the risk at all?

Just my view BTW - I respect your right to disagree ;)
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I've read many articles and had many discussions on dietry cholesterol (and eggs!) and I've yet to see any evidence showing that there's any risk at all.

I only had a very quick scan through that link and found
In another study by Ginsberg et al in 1994, twenty-four young men were fed 30% fat diets with an addition of zero (128 mg cholesterol/day), one (283 mg/day), two (468 mg/day) or four (858 mg/day) eggs per day to the base diet. Each diet lasted eight weeks. The average blood cholesterol levels in the twenty-four subjects were 155, 161, 162, and 166 mg/dl for the zero, one, two and four eggs per day feeding periods. Plasma total cholesterol increased 1.5 mg/dl per 100 mg/day added dietary cholesterol.
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So four whole eggs a day and hardly a scrap of difference from eating just the one. I eat six a day and have done for quite a while.

I did write out a longer reply but there's so much out there if you want to read it and will give a better insight than I can. You should be more worried about sugars. Also more attention to how you eat/ cook the eggs. Here's a couple of examples about cholesterol, eggs, myths.
http://www.jrussellshealth.com/cholesterol.html
http://www.shareguide.com/cholesterol.html
 
The Mad Rapper said:
That's right, but that's only a factor if his diet is right, which it clearly isn't ;)

You can't build a wall with no bricks, as you know well ;)
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that is true, but, if you arent clear in your mind what your goals are and do not have the right mindset to achieve them, your diet and your training will be crap.

you can build a routine and a diet, but you need clear goals to make sure that you are building the right routine and diet to achieve something.

think of it like this, you have the engine to wee, you have the direction to aim it, but without the urinal you have no target. you will **** on the wall, on the floor and on your feet.
Yes you will achieve the goal of going for a wee, but are you happy with the result?
 
Morba said:
that is true, but, if you arent clear in your mind what your goals are and do not have the right mindset to achieve them, your diet and your training will be crap.

you can build a routine and a diet, but you need clear goals to make sure that you are building the right routine and diet to achieve something.

think of it like this, you have the engine to wee, you have the direction to aim it, but without the urinal you have no target. you will **** on the wall, on the floor and on your feet.
Yes you will achieve the goal of going for a wee, but are you happy with the result?
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That's another way of saying what I was, it's important to get all aspects of training nailed ;)
 
Chong Warrior said:
I've read many articles and had many discussions on dietry cholesterol (and eggs!) and I've yet to see any evidence showing that there's any risk at all.

I only had a very quick scan through that link and found

So four whole eggs a day and hardly a scrap of difference from eating just the one. I eat six a day and have done for quite a while.

I did write out a longer reply but there's so much out there if you want to read it and will give a better insight than I can. You should be more worried about sugars. Also more attention to how you eat/ cook the eggs. Here's a couple of examples about cholesterol, eggs, myths.
http://www.jrussellshealth.com/cholesterol.html
http://www.shareguide.com/cholesterol.html
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Interesting read, thanks for posting that ;)
 
Thanks for all the replies its appreciated getting so many peoples advice.

I basically just stopped CEE as I had ran out and have not bothered getting any since. Im gonna do a bit of a shop on MP actually so will no doubt order some. Quick question tho, you can get the powder which most people put with OJ, can this be made together in advance? I dont have time to be mixing at work. Well give or take 30mins-45 before I should be taking I get the oppurtunity too.

Also following that basic diet schedule, what would people have for each meal? My days are different so if I was post my day could people make suggestions. :)

Lates

Wake 9am
Leave for work at 3:15
1st break @ work 5:50-6
Lunch 8-8:30
2nd break @ work 10:30-10:40
Finish work at 12:20
Train 12:40

Earlies

Wake 4:45am
Leave for work 5:40
1st break @ work 8:20-8:30
Lunch 10:30-11
2nd break @ work 1:20-1:30pm
Finish work 2:45pm
Train 3:15pm
Bed 10pm

Also the yolks are the best bit I dont think I could eat an egg without it :p
 
R5Rich said:
Also the yolks are the best bit I dont think I could eat an egg without it :p
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They're your veins mate, clog away ;)

Regarding CEE, yes you can make in advance. Or you can buy the CEE in tablet form as I do. It's more expensive that way, but more convieniant for me personally.

Here is a sample diet from Steve Blades, from the MT Forums - change the timings to suit your life, but do not drop meals:

07:00 Wake

07:15 30 minutes very steady cardio (3 times a week)

08:00 80g oats or muesli with 200 ml skimmed milk
7 egg whites, 2 whole eggs fried in olive oil
Small piece of fruit

10:30 TT V2 shake:
35g protein blend powder (NB this is not whey)
10g of peanut butter or coconut oil
2-3 Weetabix
Half a green banana
Blend with water

13:00 175g grilled chicken or tuna
100g basmati rice or wholemeal pasta
Veg selection including a few mixed seeds

15:30 TT V2 shake:
35g protein blend powder (NB this is not whey)
10g of peanut butter or coconut oil
2-3 Weetabix
Half a green banana
Blend with water

17:30 Weight train, drinking water throughout
Weights or HIIT cardio on days off

18:30 PWO shake:
40g whey
3g l –leucine
3g glutamine
3 Weetabix or 60g oat power

19:30 150g salmon or lean red meat
70g basmati rice
Fibrous veg selection

21:30 35g protein blend (Casein/milk/whey/egg)
5ml flax oil

23:00 onwards If you do happen to wake a small whey or casein shake can be consumed during the night
 
Gonna try this diet for a while cheers :)

Only problem is was expecting my MP stuff to arrive today, CEE and WHEY so TT's shakes are out of the question until monday it seems :(
 
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