So my train ticket went up 10% how about you?
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they could provide a bus/coach service whilst they get upgraded, the money from the train fares, should cover the costs involved of setting up and running a substitute service.
Soldato
Bombardier? They're always making trains. Quite often they have foreign contracts as well - so it makes no difference if they are hiring for welders or not.
Soldato
Nope, that's my annual ticket cost
(it's a very short journey but the bus service isn't very reliable for it and our office is right next to the station at the other end)
Nope, that's my annual ticket cost
(it's a very short journey but the bus service isn't very reliable for it and our office is right next to the station at the other end)
I can see why you might be annoyed at the percentage increase, but assuming you get a decent service just over a pound per day isn't too bad to get to and from work.
I think plenty of people would be jealous. 
Somehow mine has not changed which would be good except I no longer have a job to travel to. We had an 80p rise last year (to £11.20 return) but the weeks pass stayed the same. I have another job to go to in the new year but I will be at the mercy of the petrol prices (and the blockades and the weather) and we already know here from the council that they are only doing critical road repairs now!
With the new trains did I hear around 2100 new carriages to replace the Intercity 125s with 1200 new coaches for the London area. The older stuff to be shuffled elsewhere apparently (along with some more electric lines to run them). To be fair the trains here aren't bad but I know a lot of people you could use them, and save money avoid them because of the bad reputation for timing/reliability. I had my fun before Christmas. My usual peak time longer train did not appear then stuck on the station for 2.5 hours because the next 2-3 trains are as fuller than a busy tube train and the staff not letting people on!
With the new trains did I hear around 2100 new carriages to replace the Intercity 125s with 1200 new coaches for the London area. The older stuff to be shuffled elsewhere apparently (along with some more electric lines to run them). To be fair the trains here aren't bad but I know a lot of people you could use them, and save money avoid them because of the bad reputation for timing/reliability. I had my fun before Christmas. My usual peak time longer train did not appear then stuck on the station for 2.5 hours because the next 2-3 trains are as fuller than a busy tube train and the staff not letting people on!
The one saving grace for me is that so much money is being spent on the mainline I use (Bedford-Brighton) so at least I'll be getting more coaches on most trains, new coaches and more individual services.
The worry in all of this is that the price we pay still isn't the total price of the journey as part of it is paid by the govt.
The worry in all of this is that the price we pay still isn't the total price of the journey as part of it is paid by the govt.
Solutions to this problem:
Buy a car.
Buy a motorbike.
Accept a lower standing of living and get a job closer to home.
Move and do as above.
I have no reference point to really discuss public transport, at no point in my working life has being without private transport been an option due to either location or the times I have to travel.
Buy a car.
Buy a motorbike.
Accept a lower standing of living and get a job closer to home.
Move and do as above.
I have no reference point to really discuss public transport, at no point in my working life has being without private transport been an option due to either location or the times I have to travel.
My annual bus pass went up from £180 to £205, during the summer holidays I have stopped using the buses due to the high prices. Companies don't seem to understand supply and demand, they keep putting the fares up when the buses are running far below maximum capacity, this just results in a smaller and smaller customer base.
Soldato
Just checked my season ticket price. It was £60.90 a week last year and its now £64.40. An increase of £3.50 which I must admit has surprised me. I was expecting it to hover around £70 so I'm not as miffed as I was expecting to be.
Soldato
(This is all my personal opinion based on what I've read, I'm not an expert)
In a lot of cases there physically isn't room on the network any more. Coming into London during rush hour every line is at maximum capacity, which is why a single delayed train can back up everything for hours. It's also the cause of a lot of complaints- projects like the Heathrow Express and Crossrail taking up some of this capacity means that there's less to go around for normal commuter trains and freight.
There are some crazy plans out there to improve things (such as double-decker trains) or less crazy ones like laying new high speeds lines across the country, but the problem is they all cost ludicrous sums of money that we don't have lying around these days or in the case of new lines, will be tied up for ages because the route of the line means buying up and bulldozing villages and other private land.
On the other hand as I mentioned a few posts ago I do think a rationalising of what carriages go where would help. It's frustrating to see empty commuter trains heading in the opposite direction when your train is packed to the gills because they only provisioned a three-carriage train, or seeing a HST with a packed 'cattle' class set of coaches and a half dozen empty first class coaches.
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Doesn't mean they can't go to Network Rail or whatever they are called this week
Here, we bandied together and have this cash, now take it and modernise this stretch of track here, or this tunnel here, or lay some new track from here to here, etc...
Here, we bandied together and have this cash, now take it and modernise this stretch of track here, or this tunnel here, or lay some new track from here to here, etc...
I can't be bothered to argue about what happens in your dream world.
Why would they possibly want to do that? What benefit is there?
They have franchises of limited length. Why put millions or billions into investments they'll never realise before the franchise expires and somebody else gets it?
Did you basically completely ignore what I wrote?
Furthermore you might be suprised to know that if a train is carrying 500 people, the revenue the train company makes is not neccesarily 500x ticket price, either...
Its £1.90 for a single on the bus in Leeds centre. They are pretty much rammed during peak hours
How much is a yearly pass as I am paying £12 a week at the moment?
edit - just found it - firstyear £620! jesus christ, think ill stick with my £12 a week and trying to use them until the driver notices they are out of date
Robbing *******
How much is a yearly pass as I am paying £12 a week at the moment?
edit - just found it - firstyear £620! jesus christ, think ill stick with my £12 a week and trying to use them until the driver notices they are out of date
Robbing *******
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