He's a crap comedian (being offensive is below being sarcastic on the humour scale - too easy), but he wouldn't have gone out of his way to make his comments directly towards a particuarly group of persons, so he wouldn't be caught by it.
So will this guy be arrested?
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He's a crap comedian (being offensive is below being sarcastic on the humour scale - too easy), but he wouldn't have gone out of his way to make his comments directly towards a particuarly group of persons, so he wouldn't be caught by it.
Why are our armed forces fighting for our freedoms then? Freedom of speech? We don't need that one! Come on back boys...
Just because it isn't being exercised in a manner that you deem fit, its still a right he has and your right is to ignore it.
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3 posts in a row find Robbo offensive. ARREST HIM!
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So you think they should be shot on a case by case basis then or just if you don't like what they say?
Of course they are victims. I'm shocked you think people should be able to abuse each other and nothing be done about it.
I have no doubt your 'opinion' would change in a heartbeat if a member of your family was the victim of prolonged verbal harassment and abuse.
Or would you tell them to just 'get a grip?' No, of course you wouldn't.
It's extreme, my comment wasn't entirely serious though. I wouldn't be particularly upset if something very horrible happened to a person making such comments.
Maybe they should start giving these people massive fines, then they'll make some money instead of spending it.
Not man enough, is this some kind of internet hard man competition? I think you've got me beaten there.
See above.
Blah blah blah, you're easily shocked and offended, we get the point!
Robbo, I find your comments in this thread offensive.
Denying people's rights to freedom of speech. Just because you're offended by it, you'd want them executed.
It doesn't matter if I'm annoyed by some ***** comments on his facebook wall (lolfacebook), I will defend his right to talk **** as long as he doesn't offend anybody directly. And I doubt he made those comments towards anyone in particular as that's his private page (unless I'm mistaken).
Arresting people for making crappy comments can go a long way and I'd rather have those idiots say what they want than potentially invade my freedoms down the line.
Not to mention the number of people making similar, albeit using less offensive words, comments about Afghans on this very forum. Which is way more public than any ****head's facebook wall.
I think you should be shot on sight. (joking, of course)
Denying people's rights to freedom of speech. Just because you're offended by it, you'd want them executed.
It doesn't matter if I'm annoyed by some ***** comments on his facebook wall (lolfacebook), I will defend his right to talk **** as long as he doesn't offend anybody directly. And I doubt he made those comments towards anyone in particular as that's his private page (unless I'm mistaken).
Arresting people for making crappy comments can go a long way and I'd rather have those idiots say what they want than potentially invade my freedoms down the line.
Not to mention the number of people making similar, albeit using less offensive words, comments about Afghans on this very forum. Which is way more public than any ****head's facebook wall.
I think you should be shot on sight. (joking, of course)
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In fairness, he has had to listen to Katie Price whining incessantly.
Great reply...
Not really. I don't personally find the comments offensive but it's clear to anyone with some common sense that they are nasty (at best). It's very easy to see why some people would find them offensive.
It's clear that writing anything more will be a waste of time, 'tough guy'.
I don't think people understand what freedom of speech is.
The guy in the OP may not have broken the law but that doesn't mean the law can't be broken with words. Which is my point entirely.
I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that - people are simply concerned that the threshold of what is actionable by the police is too low. As I have said, I think there needs to be a greater element in direct targetting for something to be deemed as actionable.
That's entirely fair enough, maybe some law revisions are in order now the internet has become what it is?
Explain how it isn't even close please.
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Exactly. It's usually the white poeple that get offended by black terms. Straights offended by the word fag. Fit and abled by the word crippled. Most in each catagory don't care.
I don't think people understand what freedom of speech is.
The guy in the OP may not have broken the law but that doesn't mean the law can't be broken with words. Which is my point entirely.
Whilst I don't disagree with people finding his comments offensive (they simply are offensive), I would never go to lengths of denying someone his freedoms (and that's what any arrest would lead to) for being an idiot.
I think the only people that can really complain about his comments are those that would be directly affected by it, e.g. servicemen who are friend's with that guy on Facebook. And they SHOULD be able to file a civil complain about him. If he's a repeated offender, make it a criminal offence and take it one step further. But be reasonable while doing so, people walk free for physical racial assaults and that doesn't seem to bother anyone here.
Nobody should be allowed to "call for justice" because your neighbour told you that he went to his mate's house last night and his mate made offensive comments about army men.
This is what it comes down to. Also, see my edit to my previous post.
+1 for the band wagon jumping retards
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That is all entirely fair enough.
What I have a problem with is the implication from some people that people shouldn't be offended by anything and people should be able to say whatever they want. Which is obviously not how the law (or life in general) works.
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All speech should be free, and only a few exceptions should matter.
1) You can't yell fire in a theatre and watch gleefully whilst people trample one another.
2) You can't ask or suggest someone else commits a crime, in a serious manner.
3) You shouldn't be able to harass people, especially not individuals. By that I mean following someone about insulting them, or something along those lines, not saying something someone doesn't like to a 3rd party, or in a public forum. I guess libel laws fit under this.
Even then the exceptions should be used sparingly, and thoughtfully based on the reasoning and not example matching; ie:-
1) is illegal because its dangerous.
2) is illegal because you're soliciting a crime.
3) is illegal because people have a right not to listen.
I can't really see any reason for not allowing any free speech beyond that.
An overall lack of respect is the problem, it is inherent across the UK.
I bloody wish they'd bring back conscription to the UK, try and build some self respect, patriotism and respect for what the armed forces do. Get all the "hoodies" off the corners and into the forces, it'd be the making of most of them.
Conscription is necessarily the answer, the US does not have it but look at them and their attitude - hell I'm not a massive fanboi of America generally, but the respect and love they have for their Armed Forces is something to behold. Hell they have more respect for the UK Forces than the average joe in the UK for crying out loud. It is sad...
Sadly, what he says is probably not illegal and as much as I would like to smack him in the face, I'm the one who would end up being arrested. Great.
I bloody wish they'd bring back conscription to the UK, try and build some self respect, patriotism and respect for what the armed forces do. Get all the "hoodies" off the corners and into the forces, it'd be the making of most of them.
Conscription is necessarily the answer, the US does not have it but look at them and their attitude - hell I'm not a massive fanboi of America generally, but the respect and love they have for their Armed Forces is something to behold. Hell they have more respect for the UK Forces than the average joe in the UK for crying out loud. It is sad...
Sadly, what he says is probably not illegal and as much as I would like to smack him in the face, I'm the one who would end up being arrested. Great.