Some interesting/horrific facts about the Nazi party to impress my Father over dinner?

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I used to watch a lot of documentaries on the Discovery and History channel about the Nazis. I've even talked to white nationalists, skinheads and neo nazis etc.

I can see the appeal that some have with them i.e. a very ordered society compared to the chaotic society we live in today.

I think it can become an obsession for some though. Dont let it take over your life.

Some kid got jailed recently for going to extremes and planning terror attacks. He's delusional and wasted his life.
 
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I used to watch a lot of documentaries on the Discovery and History channel about the Nazis. I've even talked to white nationalists, skinheads and neo nazis etc.

I can see the appeal that some have with them i.e. a very ordered society compared to the chaotic society we live in today.

I think it can become an obsession for some though. Dont let it take over your life.

Some kid got jailed recently for going to extremes and planning terror attacks. He's delusional and wasted his life.

Thomas Mair, who murdered Jo Cox, was also a big fan. His bookshelves were rammed with Nazi crap.

Edit: picture of his collection:
https://www.itv.com/news/2016-11-23/media-reluctant-to-use-t-word-but-mair-is-a-terrorist/
 
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I was going to tell you how long it would take for 6,000,000 people to walk past you if you were just standing still, to get a perspective of the horror of the Nazi regime into some manifestable notion - but sorry to say I couldn’t find it.

Just think on how much longer it would have taken for Stalins victims to walk past.

With allies like that who needs enemies!

:/
 
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That both US and Soviet manned space programs greatly benefited from the Nazi scientists they “acquired” in 1945.

While Werner Von Braun gets a lot of credit for NASA rocket design, what doesn’t get mentioned much is the importance of the data gained from the SS medical division’s experiments on death camp inmates. Mainly because the test subjects weren’t at all willing and usually died during the experiments.
 
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That both US and Soviet manned space programs greatly benefited from the Nazi scientists they “acquired” in 1945.

While Werner Von Braun gets a lot of credit for NASA rocket design, what doesn’t get mentioned much is the importance of the data gained from the SS medical division’s experiments on death camp inmates. Mainly because the test subjects weren’t at all willing and usually died during the experiments.

On that note,

It is often said that more people died building the V2 rockets than were killed in attacks by them.

I suspect however that the true scale of this is greatly underestimated.

Most figures only count the people who died at Mittelwerk and Dora. However far greater numbers of people must have been adversely affected.,

The fuel for the V2 was Alcohol/LOX. The Alcohol was made by fermentation of Potatoes. I recall reading that it took 30 tons of Potatoes to make the fuel for one V2

Given that some 6000 V2's were built during design, development and deployment. This means that some 200,000 tons of "Food" (Perhaps even more in practice) was diverted away from people and towards fuelling these rockets.

I have no doubt that, especially towards the end of the war, this would have significantly contributed towards food shortages end even outright famine across Europe. Of course, the people on the bottom of the pile would have suffered the worst such as those in concentration camps (Not quite the same as death camps, even if often combined) and the ghettos.

How many extra deaths could be attributed to this will never really be known but I could certainly see it being a very large figure indeed. Far more than the official figures relateing to V2 production casualties.
 
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I learnt about operation "paper clip" today about the USA taking on Nazis for their own gain after the war

The US and the Soviets both did this:

Operation Paperclip was a secret program of the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA) largely carried out by special agents of Army CIC, in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians, such as Wernher von Braun and his V-2 rocket team, were taken from Germany to America for U.S. government employment, primarily between 1945 and 1959.

Many were former members, and some were former leaders, of the Nazi Party. The primary purpose for Operation Paperclip was achieving a strategic U.S. military advantage in the Soviet–American Cold War, and the Space Race.

The Soviet Union was more aggressive in forcibly recruiting more than 2,200 German specialists—a total of more than 6,000 people including family members—with Operation Osoaviakhim during one night on October 22, 1946.

(Source).

apparently one Nazi was the head of Nasa??????!!!!!

No.
 
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To be fair, it is easy to be righteous in hindsight.

International opinion of the Nazi's was generally pretty favourable right up until Kristallnacht (1938)

(Not least because most of Western Europe was, and quite rightly, rather more concerned about the Soviet Union)

And even then, most people outside Germany were not that bothererd by it.
 
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Isn't there a theory that Hitler was removed from Germany by the Americans and given asylum in Argentina?

I am not sure about Hitler but I do recall reading about a significant amount of high ranking Nazis fleeing to South America (With stolen art, gold etc) which was separate from the scientists (Whom were given asylum) that were picked up during operation paperclip. IIRC there was a town in South America that you can still visit that is made up of Germans, they all speak of German and people have pictures and memorabilia adorning their houses and shops. It was said that Mengele was once part of the community but was cast out, possibly having continued his work on local children.

There was recently a historian on Joe Rogan podcast that was very knowledgeable about the whole situation.
 
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