Sony WH-1000XM4 - Thoughts?

I have the WH-1000XM4 and they are excellent for music, daily commute and if I am listening on PC generally. However for gaming I use the Logitech Pro-X wireless headphonse, the mic is important and the Sony aren't great there. I also find they don't do as well direction wise.
Thanks.

That sounds great (pun not intended).

I have a seperate desk mic but would never have expected them to be good for that. Adequate for making phone calls?
 
I looked further and took a punt on the XM5 :eek:

Normally have wired headphones so just concerned with how much money in these has gone on actual audio quality, drivers and such and how much is on other guff?
 
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