Spanish Football 2011-2012

Fabregas has come in and got probably double figures in goals? Writing off Barce months ago is silly, they could still do it. It may go to Madrid's heads an they may implode. Who knows, Barce have nothing to lose now, basically no pressure as no one will expect them to achieve anything. No doubt they will beat RM when they meet again.

Fabregas has got double figures, but he's really ineffective out-wide imo, and in midfield Barca seem to struggle to play their natural game compared to when Xavi and Iniesta are in there.

Fabs best position is probably the role Messi plays now, which sucks if your Fabregas
 
Villa has broken his leg so dropping him really wasn't...... unexpected :p

He broke his leg last month, whats the excuse previous? :p
Agree with the 3-4-3 in theory, although its nothing new to what they were doing last season, only now the media have decided to call it what it is, rather then a 4-3-3 with Alves never defending.

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Mascherano last year > Puyol this, shame he's the captain tbh
 
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so is the spanish league over?

do you all think real will go on to win the league now? 7 points having played 20 games they've scored 70 goals wow

1 Real Madrid 20 9 0 1 41 13 8 1 1 29 6 51 52
2 Barcelona 20 9 1 0 43 2 4 5 1 16 10 47 45

anything is possible imo
 
Watched Barca a few times reently and Pique is just awful defensively, he's a good footballer but imo he's not *that* much better, or dissimilar, to David Luiz.
 
He broke his leg last month, whats the excuse previous? :p
Agree with the 3-4-3 in theory, although its nothing new to what they were doing last season, only now the media have decided to call it what it is, rather then a 4-3-3 with Alves never defending.

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Mascherano last year > Puyol this, shame he's the captain tbh

Yes and no, Puyol won't get back to form without playing, and he isn't always to blame, infact he's had some outstanding games, he was epically bad against Real in the first(and much of the second half) not sure how much of that was down to this daft, lets play Alves everywhere thing.

Also, its a bit unfair to have a go at Alves, in reality last year he bombed forward a lot, but not all the time and he definately still played as a right back who got forward. In the unfortunately awful 3-4-3 games he started in midfield, didn't go back and played closer to a, Walcott or something.

Also when he was switched back to 4-3-3 the difference was night and day, its less about where Alves was exactly(he still got back) it was the tactics the back 3 then used. In 4-3-3 the cb's start wide and high and come in to the middle as they drop deep, with the back 3 their position was woeful and the whole thing simply didn't work.

It's easier to describe last year as a back 2 when the wingbacks were pushed forward, the "bad" games it was a back 3. Thing is those poor games and dropping points suddenly put them under pressure the manager and that team hasn't faced in a ruddy long time(5-6 years?).

Also Alves has impressed with his defending this season when he's played right back properly, maybe not against Real but for 6-7 games before that I was actually surprised how well he did, getting forward less but his tackling and stuff was spot on, he was even diving less. These El Classico's bring the worst out of EVERYONE on both sides though, they all behave like school kids in those games.
 
barca struggled with a long ball for both of the real goals at the nou camp last week.

surely other teams should exploit this?

but the risk is this way if you get it wrong you will give the ball back to them and probably never get it back.

does this mean that in the champions league they can be beaten!?
 
Valencia were unlucky last night, Barca keeper should have been sent off early on for a blatent handball outside the area, don't know what the linesman was looking at to miss that.
 
Barca are finally suffering with some injuries this season which last few they have been lucky to get away with.

Pedro in and out with injuries
Sanchez out for 2 months
Puyol out then in then out
Villa broken leg
Iniesta out for a few weeks
Xavi has been out for stages of the season?

They managed last 2-3 seasons to basically play the same team week in week out and survive.
I think the idea behind pep tinkering is to help accommodate a few injuries and to try and not be so predictable. Teams are getting a bit harder to beat now after a few seasons of getting thrashed so he has to come up with new ways.

Thing is even after this rather poor season by their stands they still manage to beat RM!
Jose has won just once against Barca since being there and that took over 90 minutes. They seem to have this mental block against them and usually end up with 10 men. Some of the cards are soft and maybe harsh but then you look at others that don't get given it almost cancels it out. Lass the other game in Copa del rey should have been off at end of the first yet Ramos gets sent off for something so minor.
Then you have the usual suspect in Pepe no idea how this brute gets away with so much, don't think he is employed as an actual footballer?
 
Real just don't seem to **** it up against bad sides, that's what I loved about Ronaldo at United, he was pretty much a guaranteed three points against any lower half side.
 
HT, a scrappy, sloppy game from both sides, but RM lead, which is one of the key things this season - Madrid can be pretty rubbish but still find someone in the team to pull a goal out, or collectively they'll grind away at it till they get the 3 points they're after.
 
Bendtner and Vela are rubbish, yet both have no issue scoring against Barcelona :p

Good take, simple finish from Vela, I guess worth noting is, those are the types of chances Walcott has wasted time and time again lately, Vela gets smeg all chances with a not very good team, but when he gets his chance, its in.

Quality player, given some time and a real run of games, real form, and with 2-3 years not playing much at all, that could be some time, he could turn into a really great striker, probably won't be at Arsenal though.
 
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