Spec me a System for Online Poker - £2k budget.

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Hi

I'm seeking some help on a new system for online poker. It's going to take a hammering when I play long sessions, often 12 hours at a time. I'll also be using it for general multimedia; music, movies, tv shows etc. I won't be playing any games on it. Budget can go up to £2k but I don't think I'll need to spend near that to achieve what I need.

Ideally, needs a fast processor, SSD, and plenty of ram as I'll often have many different pieces of software running at the same time, some of which are pretty memory heavy. I'm unsure of what graphics card I'll require.

I also need to add in a monitor to the package which must be a minimum of 27" and 2560x1400. 2560x1600 os preferred or even better 4k for more screen real estate to fit more tables on. Just whatever is best value for money.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Might just be me but 2k just to play online poker might be better to invest in a tablet :p

Not so. Really serious online poker players play on multiple tables simultaneously - six or eight is far from unheard of. To do this they need a PC with enough grunt to run that many instances of their client without input lag and on a video footprint large enough to hold all the windows without any overlap. In fact, if you'd read the post before attempting to be funny you'd have seen that BankWire has already said this is what he wants to do.
 
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Not so. Really serious online poker players play on multiple tables simultaneously - six or eight is far from unheard of. To do this they need a PC with enough grunt to run that many instances of their client without input lag and on a video footprint large enough to hold all the windows without any overlap. In fact, if you'd read the post before attempting to be funny you'd have seen that BankWire has already said this is what he wants to do.

Pretty much this.

I play a minimum of 12 games at a time across four / five different networks and run database software in the background (very high memory usage) to track every single hand I play and provide me with an overlay of statistical analysis on each player at every table.

As Jedi says, I'd tile the tables across my monitor to be able to see them all without overlap, hence a high resolution is required to be able to fit them on the screen. I'm unsure of what graphics card I should be looking at for this.

As I'll have quite a large amount of money in play during my sessions, I need something very reliable.
 
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Will be silent.

Use onboard gfx.

Do you really want to spend more?


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Well that told me :p honestly I assumed online Poker even with all those tables would just be a dozen web pages on multiple screens but hey I know when to back down when I'm wrong :) Trust Stulid he knows his shiz and will steer you well.
 
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No, but that's not what he's talking about. What he's doing is tracking the cards players show against their checks, bets and folds to find observable patterns in their play.

Exactly. Just the same things you'd do when sat at an actual physical table, nothing underhand about that.

Respect to the OP, I've tried it and it's seriously hard work. Anymore than about four tables open at once takes serious levels of concentration, no limits hold-em man myself.

Spec wise your budget is way overkill, which is no bad thing. My effort:

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Should be near enough silent, plenty of grunt there for everything except gaming.
 
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I wouldn't bother with a 4K monitor - you might be able to get nine tables on it, but the buttons and text will be small. Better off with two 1080ps that can fit eight tables at a more friendly size.
 
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card counting isn't illegal, and the programs he's using track players statistics. all serious online poker players use them. 12 tabling? That's prettty hard core though.

My friends who are into their serious poker all use at least 2 monitors, some even 3.

As for the specs, stulids are more than fine.
 
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Stulid and Telecaster, thank you very much for your suggestions. They look about right to me and in line with my thoughts. I was very unsure about the graphics card so it's good to have a steer on that. I'll get something on order ASAP. I'm using a Dell XPS 17 laptop with an external monitor at the moment and it's painful. I had to restart numerous times and missed quite a few hands because of it.

With regards to the card counting, it's impossible to count cards in poker. Every hand is a fresh deal after shuffling so there is no way to keep count.

What I'm doing is similar to what Jedi says. Here's an example of a very basic one:

HUDDETAIL.PNG


Each player at the table will have an overlay of numbers by them which I use to help me make better decisions against them. As a simple example I might use the Preflop raise stat to identify what hands someone is starting the hand with if they raise. Let's say they have a 12% preflop raise stat then the hands they are starting with are something like this:

pokerstove-ranges.png


I can use this information along with other actions, statistics, experience, reads on bet sizing, timing, history, player types etc to narrow down their range as much as possible and place my hand against their perceived range to make the best possible bet/call/fold based on the above.

The software also allows me to watch back a replay of my tournaments afterwards and review my own play with other players to try and improve my mistakes.

It's not illegal and most serious players will have it.

Jon there's a couple of programs that can do this, Poker Tracker 4 is my personal preference.

Qitarah, I 12 tabled for 12 hours yesterday, pretty tough! We made bank though, today's a day off :)
 
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