Spec me some (IT) qualifications.

Priapus · 17 Oct 2010 at 20:34

Phoenixdancer said:
I read you comment and i dissagreed with it.
No knowlage of the field? The Field Of IT?? Much experiance thanks

Now you're not making sense.

What we're saying is that in the IT sector Experience -> Qualifications. In most cases!

In fact, read up at the link posted just now about a decent job that doesn't need qualifications but needs five years experience.

Ev0 · 17 Oct 2010 at 20:36

I got my current job on experience alone, it's only since working here I've actually bothered and had the funding to get a few certs under my belt.

Not sure what do get done next, got some training cash coming my way very soon which will pay for a quick Prince2 course.

sam.wheale said:
I'll have to look into the S+ - I have heard of it before.

I just think the S+ is quite a good thing for any IT staff to do to maybe get them thinking about security a bit more.

It's pretty light, I know Morrissons send all their IT staff on the course.

When I did it there were at least 6 people from there, only a couple passed it though

Actually thinking about it not many people passed it that day.

Fr0dders · 17 Oct 2010 at 20:45

Phoenixdancer said:
I read you comment and i dissagreed with it.
No knowlage of the field? The Field Of IT?? Much experiance thanks

Well by your own admission your're still doing a degree

Phoenixdancer said:
Actually, I work in IT, Im doing a Degree in AI & Robotics.

so you haven't actually completed it yet.

If you have a job, then blatently it isn't because you got a degree, because you havent got one yet. Kinda prooves my point....

Weebull · 17 Oct 2010 at 20:49

AI and Robotics doesn't really sound like an "IT" degree.

Priapus · 17 Oct 2010 at 21:01

I don't think it has anything to do with an IT degree, to be honest.

Fr0dders · 17 Oct 2010 at 21:03

me either so i'm not sure what his point is. He's implying you need qualifications to get a job, but the in the next breath tells us he's got a job in IT without one, and appears to be wanting to change away from IT completely, to robotics :confused:

Priapus · 17 Oct 2010 at 21:36

Sounds to me like he wants attention or is just tolling. Probably the latter.

Phoenixdancer · 17 Oct 2010 at 21:41

Weebull said:
AI and Robotics doesn't really sound like an "IT" degree.

AI & Robotics is very much and IT degree...

Artificial Intelligence is created useing programming lanuages such as C, C++, C#, NQC...
Fuzzy Logic amungst other things.
Robotics Is also veru much IT.. programming and building Micro computers from scratch...
Building own drivers upon windows and unix platforms... bla blah blah... something most "IT Specalists" would dream of...

So im sorry but how is it not a IT degree?? It runs along side of Computing Science.

Phoenixdancer · 17 Oct 2010 at 21:42

MrLOL said:
me either so i'm not sure what his point is. He's implying you need qualifications to get a job, but the in the next breath tells us he's got a job in IT without one, and appears to be wanting to change away from IT completely, to robotics

I have Many qulifications... GNVQ in ICT, B-tech in Computeing... amunst others.

Ev0 · 17 Oct 2010 at 21:48

Phoenixdancer said:
something most "IT Specalists" would dream of...

Not really, sounds more like a programmers wet dream tbh

Remember that IT is a very generic term that covers a huge range of work.

All sounds like stuff I don't/wouldn't like doing in IT.

Microcomputer work is cool, but in 'the real world' that's more electronics roles rather than IT.

Yes it's all computers, but the kind of IT that the guys are talking about here is more about infrastructure rather than development which is more what you're degree is focused on.

Phoenixdancer · 17 Oct 2010 at 21:49

Ev0 said:
Not really, sounds more like a programmers wet dream tbh

All sounds like stuff I don't/wouldn't like doing in IT.

meh, problery my programming love showing through

Edit: Nice edit there

Fair enough i will now calm down.

Ev0 · 17 Oct 2010 at 22:02

Just thought I'd explain a bit more as yes what you are doing is IT, but it's one very specific area of IT.

The OP wants to do network design and admin, which is a little different to programming, AI, building microcomputers from scratch etc.

Thinking about it I did programming (C++, assembly language etc) and microprocessor systems design in my degree, but it wasn't an IT degree

Mr^B · 17 Oct 2010 at 22:41

I have found that the quality of people with degrees has gone downhill over the past 5-10 years. So much so that I'm considering dropping my standard "2:1 degree" requirement to merely being able to submit a CV without any spelling mistakes in it.

I've never really looked at the degree people did anyway, it's usually a pretty long time ago - and recent/relevant experience (especially in the field of programming) is far more important than successfully completing a 2 year COBOL foundation module at Uni.