Speed cameras on the M1

LupoLover · 25 Nov 2014 at 09:22

I havent had a ticket since Jan 2009 so clean license, so I doubt I can prove it but I do seem to keep EVERYTHING so might dig one out.

Its the only SP30 ticket Ive had too! I was really nice and still got a ticket so I bet there are some */*/* out there that the police would defo give a ticket to for 32mph in a 30 if they could! As I said this was in 2003 so I cant claim anything recent. I never got a NIP as I was done at the roadside, yellow ticket and paid it and sent license off and got points put on.

Jonny ///M · 25 Nov 2014 at 09:52

geekman said:
I've never had a ticket so I'm not sure if it's common practice to write the speed on it, but I do know that when you receive the NIP in the post it will have the speed, so you definitely would have received something confirming it at some point.

Tbh the guy on PH can be a ****, but he does have a point. I think everybody's tired of hearing these claims and never seeing anything to back it up. The fact that he still hasn't had to pay anything several months after he offered the money certainly suggests that he's right and it doesn't happen, or perhaps used to happen and doesn't happen anymore.

My last ticket a few weeks ago had something along the lines of 'driving 47mph in a 30mph limit'.

Don't think I get the to keep the slip when I paid it though.

LupoLover · 25 Nov 2014 at 10:05

Jonny ///M said:
My last ticket a few weeks ago had something along the lines of 'driving 47mph in a 30mph limit'.

Don't think I get the to keep the slip when I paid it though.

You used to for sure.I remember finding my yellow one years after paying it, maybe I paid it online using a reference number.

InvaderGIR · 25 Nov 2014 at 10:05

geekman said:
I think everybody's tired of hearing these claims and never seeing anything to back it up. The fact that he still hasn't had to pay anything several months after he offered the money certainly suggests that he's right and it doesn't happen, or perhaps used to happen and doesn't happen anymore.

ACPO Guidelines pages 7 & 8 define what you can be prosecuted for, but it only applies if the force is signed up to them and not all police forces are signed up. Also, it's guidelines only, not a hard and fast rule of what's allowed, so it's entirely possible to be prosecuted for 1mph over the limit if an officer feels like doing so.

Jonny ///M · 25 Nov 2014 at 10:07

LupoLover said:
You used to for sure.I remember finding my yellow one years after paying it, maybe I paid it online using a reference number.

I paid cash at the local court so I'm sure I swapped the ticket for a receipt sadly.

LupoLover · 25 Nov 2014 at 10:08

InvaderGIR said:
ACPO Guidelines pages 7 & 8 define what you can be prosecuted for, but it only applies if the force is signed up to them and not all police forces are signed up. Also, it's guidelines only, not a hard and fast rule of what's allowed, so it's entirely possible to be prosecuted for 1mph over the limit if an officer feels like doing so.

Where do we find out which forces use this?

InvaderGIR · 25 Nov 2014 at 10:22

LupoLover said:
Where do we find out which forces use this?

I don't know that, their site states 295 members but that doesn't really help much, maybe it's worth asking them? - http://www.acpo.police.uk/About/Membership.aspx

Who is signed up and the guidelines have never really bothered me, especially the last few years as I am a boring slow/within the limit driver in most areas where there may be a camera (motorways and built up areas) anyway.

LupoLover · 25 Nov 2014 at 10:32

Me too, I drive a Bluemotion 99% of the time! It would just be interesting, 295 sounds like most tho!

geekman · 25 Nov 2014 at 12:10

InvaderGIR said:
ACPO Guidelines pages 7 & 8 define what you can be prosecuted for, but it only applies if the force is signed up to them and not all police forces are signed up. Also, it's guidelines only, not a hard and fast rule of what's allowed, so it's entirely possible to be prosecuted for 1mph over the limit if an officer feels like doing so.

Oh I'm well aware of that, I'm just saying that nobody has ever proved that it actually happens. You would think that at least one person would be able to but so far we haven't seen anything.

rich_g85 · 25 Nov 2014 at 20:09

I had a NIP for doing 33mph in a 30 zone 18 months ago (by a mobile camera van).

Paperwork is long gone though!

digzz · 5 Apr 2015 at 11:23

How many people actually got a ticket on the M1 between Luton and the m25 ?

Fourstar · 5 Apr 2015 at 13:28

No one from this forum has been flashed by the gantry cameras (in recent history) far as I can remember. Some of us think we may have been flashed on the M25 by those new cameras mounted by the side of the road while doing no more than 80 though no tickets were received.

delta0 · 5 Apr 2015 at 14:13

I've seen the M1 ones flash many times on the other side. Whether that means they got a ticket or not who knows.

Redgie · 5 Apr 2015 at 14:19

I've noticed the discrete green speed cameras popping up on the M62 Liverpool-Manchester stretch recently, no idea if they're in use or set to come into use. I have no issue with them enforcing 70 but a great deal of issue with them enforcing 40 when there's nobody around

ADT · 5 Apr 2015 at 14:43

digzz said:
How many people actually got a ticket on the M1 between Luton and the m25 ?

I got flashed once when the gantries were set at 40. Nothing came through though. I was doing around 50 at the time

Havana_UK · 5 Apr 2015 at 15:16

Redgie said:
I've noticed the discrete green speed cameras popping up on the M62 Liverpool-Manchester stretch recently, no idea if they're in use or set to come into use. I have no issue with them enforcing 70 but a great deal of issue with them enforcing 40 when there's nobody around

I think it's unlikely that speeding in a 40 (motorway) would be punished unless there were aggravating circumstances or the speed was excessive as it's widely known that compliance with a 40 limit on motorways is notoriously poor.
To be honest the only times I see a 40 limit is when the traffic is nearly static and you'd struggle to manage 20 let alone exceed 40.

Phantom Shadow · 5 Apr 2015 at 16:37

LupoLover said:
They dont have to have any tolerance, you can be done for 71mph the 10% guideline went out years ago..... I know as asked when I was younger I was done for 2.3mph over the limit and was told that 10% +2 went out years ago.

When I got caught speeding a couple of years ago (2012) I also got sent a link to part of northumbria police's website which showed where all their speed cameras are (and potential mobile locations) and part of that also said if I received a ticket less than +10%+2mph to call up and they'll cancel the ticket as they only issue for above that so it would have been an admin error that it was even received. Annoying that I was caught at 36 in a 30 which is right on that limit.

So while some areas may have stopped following the guideline there are still some areas that do still use it, and it is still in the ACPO guildeines as mentioned above. Gone out years ago in one area doesn't mean the whole country has stopped following it.

NVP · 5 Apr 2015 at 16:42

digzz · 5 Apr 2015 at 17:15

NVP said:
They turn them on manually, you can see the flicker when they switch them on even if there is no limit displayed. I got flashed 140+ about a month or so back, nothing came through - same 5hing happened to a friend on m25 ones a couple years ago at 100+ and nothing. I'm still of the opinion that if there is no limit displayed nothing will happen... however stick below 100 and they shouldn't flash...

I was flashed the other night between hemel hempstead and st albans next to the a414 slip road going under the Gantry. Doing 100mph

now it's just a waiting game

I think I was just used too the m25 Gantry's where they don't flash at that speed.

mrk · 5 Apr 2015 at 20:01

I was all over the M1 this Easter weekend. I assume if you get flashed it's pretty obvious on these smart cameras as opposed to other drivers seeing you get flashed but you don't notice any difference?