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Fantastically worked second for Bolton. Becoming a very watchable team under Coyle.
** spoilers ** English League Football [27th - 28th November 2010]
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He made a good block but his defending for your first goal wasn't good enough. He got himself too square on to Modric which allowed Modric to walk past him.
Not as bad as Konchesky for the 2nd goal but still not good enough.
This so called penalty they should have had (like I said, Benny clearly won the ball) wasn't even deemed worthy of a mention of any kind, go figure
Who needs referee's when we've got motd editors
And surely you weren't talking about your penalty being a no brainer? It wasn't even a free-kick to begin with and then N'gog's handled outside the box.
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I find it hilarious that a player that wasn't deemed good enough for Spurs now plays for the once mighty Liverpool.
Spurs edged both halves, playing open attacking football down the flanks whilst Liverpool's wide men constantly drifted inside overloading the middle against Palacios. Pool did well on the counter, but it's such a shame their players have forgotten how to shoot.
2-1 was a fair reflection, but the game could have easily been 5-3.
Spurs edged both halves, playing open attacking football down the flanks whilst Liverpool's wide men constantly drifted inside overloading the middle against Palacios. Pool did well on the counter, but it's such a shame their players have forgotten how to shoot.
2-1 was a fair reflection, but the game could have easily been 5-3.
I know the idea of having a job that might require you to move is lost to you cheets, but I do support my local team, thanks.
Or do you think I should get involved with Northern Irish football? Because hahaha yeah right.
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It's not like Spurs have ever been a walkover team in the last 5 or so years. Along with Everton and more recently Man City they've been the most likely team for quite a while to break into the group of clubs that actually compete for the title. All the match today confirmed to me was that Liverpool aren't a mid-table side yet and could compete for that fourth spot if they get some consistency in their game and scalp some higher-ups on the way. Tottenham played as they were expected to play and were lucky not to get finished off before the break and similarly fortunate again to get the winner (but this is not to say Liverpool deserved the victory).
I take them seriously alright, but only as contenders to the fourth spot along with two or three other teams. Coming up against big teams not crippled by a fat Spanish waiter at their heads, be it in the Premiership or the Champions League, might change my mind on that but not yet.
Who are you talking about?I find it hilarious that a player that wasn't deemed good enough for Spurs now plays for the once mighty Liverpool.
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Definately, its ridiculous, but the simple thing is, its not so much the rules aren't clear, the problem is, see the same tackle from 5 different angles and you can have 5 different opinions, you can see one foul, be entirely certain contact was made, from another angle see its a clear dive.
Theres literally one solution, let the single guy with the final say, see all 5 angles for himself, if only dozens of other sports came up with a way this could be done..........
For the past 2 years at every transfer window theres been huge talk about the same club wanting the same player and the same deal stalling in the dying minutes because Insua wanted too much cash, a player that wanted away but didn't want to give up the money. This was the same rumour every single window, that finally happened, eventually, probably as his contract was getting fairly short and a smaller wage is better than no wage and a very weak bargaining position. Insua HAS come very close to leaving for a couple of years, and it finally happened.
Jesus, try to use just a little bit of common sense.
I said WANT to go out, in terms of, it would probably be better to go out now than face a difficult feature list later in the season, they've made a bundle on CL football already, but if that costs them 4th spot and they are one year wonders in the CL, good for bragging rights, not good for the club.
As for closing the gap, as I pretty cleary hinted, I didn't think Spurs were better, but Arsenal were worse, Villa aren't even close to the side they've been in the past 4-5 years, yet we struggled hard and looked very sloppy all around, with deflected goals and poor passing. The gap has closed, I was suggesting this is because Arsenal are moving down rather than Spurs moving up.
Winning a game in 17 years doesn't indicate anything, Spurs were good in the second half, Arsenal were woeful, old Arsenal would have run riot and torn Spurs a new one, even last years Arsenal would have done so, this years Arsenal is conceding goals and throwing away games we never would have previously.
I find it fairly funny you think February is a really warm time of the year. IT will be harder to play Spartak Moscow in February than September, or April, its less about the actual fixture, nor the fact that their CL record is better than Arsenals so far(ignore reputation, look at the actual teams and both groups have 3 joke teams in tbh, as said Arsenal suck).
As for the one sidedness of me talking about that game, get over yourself, you're reading more into what I said than is there. Can you point out where I said Spurs deserved to lose or Liverpool deserved to win, no, then how is it one sided.
Your goal line clearance couldn't of gone in, the shot happened, it was blocked, thats life, Torres and Maxi's shots weren't saved, both players failed to shoot, would they be saved, we don't know. I was not saying Liverpool deserved to win, I was merely saying those two were crap, and I had no idea what they were up to.
Well Naughtons not world class, King/Dawson aren't ever fit, Corluka is injured, Huddlestone is injured, Bentley is a joke, Jenas is injured isn't he, Kranjcar hasn't shown anything this season.
Here lies the problem, what if it turns out you had to play away to Spartak Moscow, then 3 days later play an early game against City/Utd/Chelsea/Arsenal, would that second string be enough, will that first string be tired, who knows.
When fixture conjestion starts to become a problem, your best players start playing less well, and you drop points you otherwise wouldn't.
http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/teams/TottenhamHot.html
Not sure if the link will work, compared to last year, you've actually got, strangely, exactly the same average goals conceded both home and away(a statistical miracle?) but your goals scored at home is abysmal compared to last season and goals away is worse. You'd won a game more, drawn less, lost the same with one game more played this season so far. Scored around 1/3 less, mostly at home. At this stage last season, you had more points, more wins, a lot more goals.
It tends to be the END of long multi cup seasons that hurt the big teams, not the end of the first 1/3rd.
Yes, you might play Wolves, then Spartak, then Blackburn, then the second Spartak leg, then have a nice break and play second string against Wigan and win 9-1, then have a good rest before a huge game.
But you might end up playing Utd, then Spartak away, then City, then another CL leg, then a cup game, then Chelsea. Its when reschedualed games + euro games, + hard run of games all come together that could leave Spurs in a pretty poor league position.
Aren't Spurs ALREADY suffering from more injuries than usual due to more games in the same period as last year, its not hugely likely to get better while playing more games than you played last year, against difficult opposition with more travel and with the still fit players also getting less rest due to less backup players.
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Prior to this summer there hadn't been a whisper that Insua was likely to leave. He signed a new contract 2 seasons ago and rejected 2 moves away from the club this summer. It was only when he was totally isolated and not even given a squad number that he finally gave up hope of staying at the club.
Stop making things up.
Stop making things up.
it really was, like one of the comentators said, it if was barca everyone would be going mental over it.
petrovs wernt bad either.
bolton goals
was it west brom who scored a great freekick too? it couldnt of been any more top corner. perfectly placed.
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Get the impression he's actually convinced himself it happened?
Corluka is fit and Kranjcar hasn't shown anything because he's only played about 20 minutes of PL football so far.
Out of the 16 teams likely to qualify for the knock-out stage of the Champions League, only Shaktar Donesk are located in Eastern Europe. The rest are mainly based in Spain, Italy, France and Germany.
And I'm much more worried about how Spurs would perform against Wigan than Chelsea after a CL game. Getting fired up for the big games is easy.
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The 2 injuries that have weakened us (Defoe and Dawson) were actually caused on England duty, you could almost argue King's too.
Last season was the first in 4 that Spurs weren't playing in Europe, their squad is the strongest I can remember in living memory, there is no reason why they can't compete on multiple fronts.
Spurs have Dawson training again, Defoe back, now VDV is out for a month so we shall see Spurs playing a different game. More 4-4-2 goals fests are definitely in the offing. Huddlestone out for 3 months is a big blow as he has become a key player, Jenas was doing well in his absence but typically has got injured himself. So it's time for Palacios to show his quality and we've got the raw Sandro to keep him on his toes.
I'm not holding my breath but we could see the re-emergence of Woodgate to come.
Spurs have conceded some sloppy goals this season mainly due to an unsettled defence, however I think Gallas is clearly back on form and Kaboul is looking like a monster. Ekotto still has his inconsistent moments but for most games is very good. Hutton is looking more like the player we thought we were buying, though I think Kaboul might start ahead of him if we have both Dawson and Gallas fit.
Are Spurs really playing any worse than last season? I don't think so. The main reason why Spurs were so good at the start of last year is because Defoe and Lennon were in terrific form. Well Lennon is finally starting to beat his man again, delivering dangerous balls and Defoe is back from injury with something to prove...
For all their injuries Spurs are still within touching distance of the leaders, I can't see them getting out of sight just because of a very welcome European distraction.
I'm really happy to see Lennon returning to form. There was a real intelligence to his play yesterday and we're really going to need him if teams are going to put four men on Bale.
After seeing Liverpool play yesterday, I'd definitely be in the Hodgson Out camp if I was a Liverpool fan. Liverpool under Hodgson play such carp, boring and cynical football. They received 5 yellow cards and I was surprised that they finished the game with 11 men.
That'd make a pretty impressive front line if Lennon does return to form. Bale, Modric VdV Lennon and Crouch up front.
I agree about Hodgson out.
However, two of those yellows were for Konchesky and Meireles, neither of which were fouls, and one was for Skrtel dissenting a penalty which wasn't...I know that it's a bit beside the point, but still! I wouldn't say we're a dirty or cynical side, just average and boring.
I saw the game yesterday (first 'Pool game in a while) and I couldn't believe that you were resorting to long ball football for most of it. No confidence to play the ball in the middle, which is strange because when you did, you created your best chances. At the end of the day you 'Arsenal'ed' it up - you had two one on ones after you scored and you missed. That's what cost you the points.
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Same here...granted i dont watch a lot of liverpool games but thought last nights game was worth watching...which to be fair it was but i think Liverpool are missing Gerrard as hes usually making things happen in the middle.
But as much as i like Hodgson...i dont think the Liverpool gig is right for him nor Liverpool for that matter. I do wonder if Rafa stayed if they would have still struggled this season...problem is Liverpool have sold their decent players on ie Mascherano, Alonso and a few others....im still surprised Gerrard and Torres are still at Liverpool...perhaps Torres will leave next summer because unless Liverpool become more consistent i cant see him staying there for much longer.
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God I hate Spurs.
Harry 'Give me lots of money and I will win the lague' Redknapp annoys me so much.
Well to be fair to the Spurs they arent as bad as Citeh are...and buying VDV at £8mill was the deal of the season so far...hes been absolutely immense for them this season. Why no other team snapped him up is truly beyond me, Arsenal were told to get him and RVP made it clear to Wenger to get him but we didnt...c'est la vie as they say.
Playing in the CL won't cost Spurs 4th spot at all, they are more than capable of playing two games a week. The majority of pundits suggest they have greater strength in depth than the other sides in the top 4, so why would that make then at a disadvantage?
Going back to the past are we? Spurs teams of old would have chewed Arsenal to pieces, Arsenal just cannot cope against teams who take it to them - thats down to Arsenes installation of we have a divine right to win games.
Maybe you should look at the groups, only one team from any far fetched European country can qualify.
Last time I looked you can't win a game if you don't have a shot, therefore based on that Defoes one effort was more of a clear cut chance than either of the 2 Torres and 1 Maxi non efforts.
I don't recall suggesting Naughton was world class, but he is more than capable of doing a job in a 2nd string side, Dawson is nearly almost fit, he played 38 games last season not bad for someone who is never fit, over 200 games in 5 seasons isn't too shabby a return either. Several of those players are injured, but read my post again it clearly says when they are fit. Bentley may be a joke to you being an ex-Arsenal player and all, but he is more than competant when given game time.
We've already established Spurs cant meet Spartak, but in response to your question I am sure they can cope, Arsenal, Werder Bremen and Liverpool in a week is probably harder yet them seemed to cope with that easily enough.
See above.
Or, we could play Arsenal, Man United, Chelsea, Man City in the space of 10 days and pick up 9 points like last season and finish 4th.
Indeed we are, but still managed to take maximum points against Arsenal, Werder Bremen and Liverpool in the space of 8 days with the likes of King/Dawson/Kaboul/Corluka/Huddlestone/Van der Vaart/Jenas/Keane missing at some point during those games.
Sorry for going all DM on you again StewartMG