***SPOILERS*** Football 4th-6th Dec '10

Care to elaborate? Soto's got the best of every striker he's come up against in the air this season and iinm, had more headed chances than any other player in the league from set-plays too.

His actual heading ability isn't the greatest but for simply getting on the end of things, I can't think of anybody better right now.
 
Apparently it's not Song who's entirely to blame for his mindless wandering up the pitch malarky. It's Wenger who's told him this (The Times). :/

ANyone who remotely thought Song was playing DM for, most of this season, is daft. Wilshire has been DM, Nasri played DM in one game and got pushed there after Wilshire was subbed, maybe last weekend, can't recall, Denilson, even Fabregas has spent large portions of games sitting deeper than Song.

Wenger seems to freely admit that Song is useless in DM, why, he'll start Denilson there, who can barely be described a footballer, and Wilshire(a hugely hugely promising Fabregas type) is being favoured there as frankly Song is so bad and a truly quality player like WIlshire can adapt and play a non favoured role, Nasri was tried there(and better than Song) end of the season before last, may have continued if Diaby hadn't broken his leg in the summer between those seasons.


The shocking part of it is, Song now isn't in the team for defensive duties at all, yet still runs back and fails to defend properly when required, fouls needlessly leading to goals, and his offensive work is laughable. Woo, he fluked a few goals in a row, so the hell what, one of them was even a very nice little chip finish, before then, for his entire life, and since then, he's been woeful.

Wilshire would play Song's current role massively better, his passing in those situations, ability to play a throughball or clever one/two makes him ideal for that kind of role.

Like I said, we bought Song as a striker, he went out on loan, was crap, came back, was pushed into midfield as he couldn't hit a barn door, moved to DM, then RB< then CB, then DM again as his least awful position, now our star in the making attacking midfield is playing DM because he's too poor to continue there.

How many other managers would keep trying star attacking midfielders over your supposely great DM in that position, then keep insisting on starting your rubbish DM, as a rubbish attacking midfielder, for several seasons, without replacing him.

Would Utd try Nani, or Obertan as their DM, no, would Chelsea try Kalou, or Malouda as their DM, no. Nor would, in the case that they started Kalou as a DM, would they take it upon themselves to play Mikel in Lampards role, its laughable.
 
Care to elaborate? Soto's got the best of every striker he's come up against in the air this season and iinm, had more headed chances than any other player in the league from set-plays too.

His actual heading ability isn't the greatest but for simply getting on the end of things, I can't think of anybody better right now.

Liverpools form for the Hodgson haters btw


Bah, table won't copy, last 8 games, the 3rd best points haul/form in the league, last 5 home games, 2nd best form in the league, last 5 away games, 13th best in the league, not quite so good.

Home form is 4 out of 5 wins, 3 losses in the last 5 away game, Spurs, Stoke, both you probably wouldn't expect to win, and Everton, awful performance but 9 games ago now and, Everton were due a victory to be honest.
 
Will be interesting to see how Chelsea's next Premier League games pan out for them:

Sunday, 12 December 2010
Tottenham v Chelsea, 16:00

Sunday, 19 December 2010
Chelsea v Man Utd, 16:00

Monday, 27 December 2010
Arsenal v Chelsea, 20:00

Hard games and also points going directly to their two biggest title contenders if they lose.
 
Apparently it's not Song who's entirely to blame for his mindless wandering up the pitch malarky. It's Wenger who's told him this (The Times). :/

Song has gone from one of the most promising DM's in the league (last season), who had a fantastic season and was getting noticed by everybody, to completely shunning his responsibility and putting in several less than average performances this season. If the fans who see 10% of what Wenger does can see how clear it is, you've got to wonder why nothing has been said.

The annoying thing is that JFW now has to play realllly deep to cover for the complete lack of a midfield and is subsequently suffering in his performance too.

How is it difficult to realise that JFW is actually good going forwards, and Song is actually good at defending, and swap their roles?
 
Will be interesting to see how Chelsea's next Premier League games pan out for them:

Sunday, 12 December 2010
Tottenham v Chelsea, 16:00

Sunday, 19 December 2010
Chelsea v Man Utd, 16:00

Monday, 27 December 2010
Arsenal v Chelsea, 20:00

Hard games and also points going directly to their two biggest title contenders if they lose.

Chelsea need the balls to drop their terrible performing players, likewise Lampard getting back. Malouda for one in the last several games, the team seems to give him a more of the ball than anyone else, but almost every one of his passes is just wrong, and his shooting poor and his running and thinking bad. He's been utterly woeful since he joined Chelsea, and only 6-7 games last year looked decent, in games they would have destroyed the opposition without his goals.

Malouda needs dropping, as does Kalou, defensively with Terry back, if Alex is fit their back line gets dramatically improved and very strong with Ivanovic at right back.

With defence almost sorted and Lampard due back for the Utd game is it? They could be an entirely different side facing those teams.

Ancelloti is getting a lot of crap though over inheriting a team with literally no depth whatsoever, Abramovich really needs to buy some cheapish "good enough" backup/rotation players in January.

If Lampard doesn't make it back and they have to play a dodgey back 4, they could lose all 3 games very easily.
 
Song has gone from one of the most promising DM's in the league (last season), who had a fantastic season and was getting noticed by everybody, to completely shunning his responsibility and putting in several less than average performances this season. If the fans who see 10% of what Wenger does can see how clear it is, you've got to wonder why nothing has been said.

The annoying thing is that JFW now has to play realllly deep to cover for the complete lack of a midfield and is subsequently suffering in his performance too.

How is it difficult to realise that JFW is actually good going forwards, and Song is actually good at defending, and swap their roles?

Song is NOT good at defending, he still does all the same crap he does last year, get caught up the field, foul consistantly in stupid places, never track runs into the box and ignore people he's marking at corners.

You only have to look at EVERY SINGLE performance against a top 6 side to see how utterly woeful Song ALWAYS was. Drogba last year, I seem to remember him scoring from one corner where Song was marking him and in the replay you see he never once turns to check where Drogba has gone, who simply moved a yard away and almost walked past him to the back post to nod one in.

Wilshire also has ONLY played DM this year, and he played deep in several preseason games, he played fantastically well there earlier in the season and hasn't been quite as good in the past few games, but not bad either. Song's been getting further and further forward, even not as the DM Song should be doing a lot of defensive work as Cesc has always done, but Song's constantly caught up field.

Just a horribly bad player, every part of his game is not even close to premiership quality.

Again I'll point out, Diaby has a few good games, Arsenal fans can't stop talking about how effective he is for the entire season, 2 goals at struggling Pompie, smeg all else all year.

Denilson not very good, but for some reason lauded exactly the same way as Song last year, a year later, playing identically people think Denilson is crap. Hell, because of 3 whole goals a bunch of people were saying how brilliant Song was going forwards, no, just an out of position player flukily running into the right place at the right time, happens to everyone(cough, Cygan brace while playing left back and doing an immitation of Ashley cole, bombing forwards all game).

Wilshire is about the 4th attacking midfield player we've sacrificed to try deeper than Song, over the past 3 seasons, because Wenger clearly thinks Song isn't good enough. Buy a damn DM and play our actual attacking midfielders in position, where each and every one we have is 10 times the player Song is.
 
Alex Song wanted to give his children a good upbringing in life, which he claims eluded him; he married at the age of 18 and is now father to two children, the oldest being two-year-old Nolan.[4] Song is one of 28 children in his family, he has 17 sisters and 10 brothers.[5]

From Wiki.

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I read an article last week saying Wenger had warned Song against getting forward so often, now there's one saying Wenger consciously instructs our only powerful midfielder to not defend as much, in an attempt to confuse the opposition. He's confused me. I don't know what's going on anymore.
 
I read an article last week saying Wenger had warned Song against getting forward so often, now there's one saying Wenger consciously instructs our only powerful midfielder to not defend as much, in an attempt to confuse the opposition. He's confused me. I don't know what's going on anymore.

Let's get Daniele De Rossi in. :D
 
We're in serious trouble. :(

That we are. It isn't looking good for us at all. Some very big games coming up shortly & I can't see us getting anything from them :(

Spurs, Chelsea & Man City.

Our defense is looking more shocking every game, poor mistakes all the time. Still want to know how Ireland can be in the team when he's so flipping rubbish it is unbelievable.
 
Didn't want to make a new thread on this so will post in here.

Is there anywhere online where I can see the sky sports goal of the week? I looked on sky sports but couldn't find anything in their video section.

I always miss it on sky sports news.
 
Alex Song wanted to give his children a good upbringing in life, which he claims eluded him; he married at the age of 18 and is now father to two children, the oldest being two-year-old Nolan.[4] Song is one of 28 children in his family, he has 17 sisters and 10 brothers.[5]

From Wiki.

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Blimey - I imagine that there aren't many players who, when fans sing "we all dream of a team of Songs" could actually make that happen!

EDIT: Not that that's a frequent chant at the Emirates.
 
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