St George's day - English and proud?

St George's cross was the Genoan flag. I believe England did a deal with Genoa whereby English ships could fly the flag of Genoa as a strategical thing. It then led to us adopting the flag.

St George never set foot in England. St Edmund would make a much better patron saint.

there you go trade and the City of London! Very English, a good choice!

The worst part of England is London anyway :p

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lol nice edit someone :O
 
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Historically we've done more to civilise the world than any other nation - much of that was borne out of greed but the fact remains England has enriched the world massively in proportion to the size of our population in terms of social, political and scientific advances.

The only other nation that comes close and possibly exceeds us is in those terms is Scotland, and much of that was as a result of the successful union.

In terms of language, culture and sport, no other nation has given so much to the world, yet we're just a tiny country with a small population.

So yeah I'm proud to be English and screw any weak-wristed, weak-minded liberal that says otherwise.



I'm Scottish and prefer to say I'm lucky to be Scottish rather than proud. Because I didn't choose my nationality.

Happy St. George's day btw. :D
 
TBH I don't care.

When asked I say I'm British.

To me being proud of where you fall is daft.

I'm happy for sporting patriotism and rivalry between the nations that make up Great Britain but the rest is nonsense
 
Borders aside, I am human, I'd be proud of our kind if one half of the species wasn't starving whilst the other half lives in luxury. I live on the luxurious side, and I'm currently sat on my arse doing nothing about it, so I'm not particularly proud of myself either.
 
I'm going to post this before the thread decends into the usual, bash england we've done nothing ever type thing.

Did you hear about the bigot who hates all things English? He makes a good living in the Concreting business, because almost everything in the City depends on this industry. It's just a pity that reinforced concrete was invented by W.B. Wilkinson in Newcastle, England.
Nope, that would be Joseph Monier, a Frenchman.

Many of his home appliances use electric motors, which were invented by Londoner Michael Faraday.
The Hungarian Anyos Jedlik was the first to invent the an electric motor as we'd recognise it.

These range from vacuum cleaners, the invention of Englishman Hubert Booth
Cleaning by use of vacuum is an American invention, although Booth invented the first motorised vacuum cleaner.

to sewing machines, invented by Englishman Charles Weisenhall back in 1755.

However, not all of his appliances run on electric motors. There's his Microwave Oven, based on the Magnetron invented by Sir John Randall and Dr H A H Boot at Birmingham University.
But they didn't have anything to do with the creation of the microwave oven, that was an American, Percy Spencer.

His modern Central Heating unit, designed by Englishman A H Barker
Just wrong.

and even his TV set, the brainchild of Englishman Shelford Bidwell. Even the television's production
It wasn't his brainchild, he was commenting on research and experiments being actively done.

depended on the invention of the cathode-ray tube by London physicist Sir William Crookes.
He invented the Crookes Tube, look up why they are different.

That is, unless he chose to send his letter by e-mail on a computer - the brainchild of Englishman Sir Charles Babbage.
Really? You're seriously trying to link Babbage with the modern computer and email?

Our bigot then briefly considered getting away from it all - flying off to some remote place with nothing to remind him of English genius. But then he recalled that modern jet aircraft engines were designed by English test pilot Sir Frank Whittle.
Really? I think you'll find they are built on the work of the Germans.

He then decided to do some home chores, so he thought about washing the dishes - but his kitchen sink is made of stainless steel, invented by Englishman Sir Harry Brearly.
It was a Frenchman who recognised the corrosion resistance of iron-chromium alloys and a German who devised a process to produce the low carbon chromium needed.

To make matters worse, he noticed that his favourite and most useful kitchen utensils were made of plastic, the brainchild of Birmingham professor Alexander Parkes.
Parkes invented parkesine, pretty much unrelated to most things we consider plastic which are PVC (American), PE (German) or PP (Italian).

Our bigot, now completely distracted by anger, turned around and walked straight into one of his prized rose bushes, badly scratching his arms and hands. Briefly, he was glad that his Tetanus shots were up to date - until he remembered that immunisation was discovered by Dr Edward Jenner, another Gloucestershire man.
Yes, but the Tetanus specific vaccine is a French discovery.

This was all too much - All of this contact with English brilliance just about gave the poor chap a heart attack. It's just as well that he had previously been fitted with a cardiac pacemaker, the invention of English surgeon W H Walshe.
Invention? He suggested that electric impulses could restart a heart, in 1862. First of all that's not a pacemaker, and secondly he didn't actually invent anything.

Feeling very run-down, emotionally depressed and really quite ill, our bigot decided that he'd better go to the doctors for a check-up. After a breif consultation, the doctor announced that he needed an urgent blood transfusion to save his life. Fortunately, this was quickly arranged and our bigot survived - thanks mostly to James Blundell, who pioneered blood transfusions at Guy's Hospital, London.
And without the work on Austrian Karl Landsteiner there was a decent chance the bloody transfusion would kill him.

I really dislike these mails of "facts", so often they are misleading or just wrong.
 
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