Star Trek: Enterprise

Voyager is simply awesome. On season 5.
Then its TOS Blurays with redone cgi. Also fantastic for kirk and spock :D
TNG is also awesome I don't enjoy as much as voyager or TOS
Enterprise was good and got better before being canned.
DS9 is just utter nonsense I hate it.

ps. I liked the enterprise theme :(
 
Efour2 said:
Definitely need to put Bab5 back on TV or even on demand from series 2 (series 1 is just a hotch potch of ideas they don't have a clue where they are going and most of it is just face palm cringe worthy.
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Gotta throw in my 2 cents here. JMS knew exactly where he was going, someone can correct me if i'm wrong because I can't find a source but he had written the entire series before he even pitched it to Warner. There are so many references to later elements of the overall story littered through season 1...SPOILER FOLLOWS...


...right down to Kosh saying Entil'z'ha (sp?) Valen when he first thinks he's meeting Sinclair.

JMS had a clear vision of where B5 would go from episode 1 but was massively hampered by the studio. That's why the shadow war is so neatly wrapped up at the start of S4. The shadow war was supposed to run the entire course of S4 and S5 was supposed to be the war to retake earth.

I will agree that there are some terrible episodes in S1 and the jump in quality from S1 to S2 is astounding but i still watch S1 with a fondness and get little pangs of excitement each time I notice a new hint towards the forthcoming shadow war that I hadn't noticed before.

And not to go too off topic...TNG, DS9, TOS, Voyager then Enterprise :)
 
yeah b5 was a very long arc based story line, season 1 (and even the pilot) had elements of what was to come. Unfortunately due to the usual penny pinching/viewing figure basis of the tv company at the time they had to rush season 5 and I think some of 4 otherwise it would have been longer, I think there was a planned 6th season
 
The main issue with Enterprise is that if you didn't watch S3-4 in order, or you missed one for whatever reason, the story arc just wouldn't make sense. I think this is the reason it died. With TNG every episode was fine in itself. Yes, it also had story arcs that lasted a whole series, but you didn't need to know them to be able to watch a single episode. On Enterprise, the episodes where so interlinked, you couldn't just watch one or two casually.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
The main issue with Enterprise is that if you didn't watch S3-4 in order, or you missed one for whatever reason, the story arc just wouldn't make sense. I think this is the reason it died. With TNG every episode was fine in itself. Yes, it also had story arcs that lasted a whole series, but you didn't need to know them to be able to watch a single episode. On Enterprise, the episodes where so interlinked, you couldn't just watch one or two casually.
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I think Enterprise was dying from season 2, a lot of the fanbase had abandoned it at that stage and the show was re-tooled for Season 3 but never really regained any of it's lost ground.
 
I own the entire series on DVD (just don't own TOS 2 & 3 on Blu-Ray yet)

I enjoyed the Vulcan civil war and the whole Xindi story arc from Enterprise's later episodes, along with Brent Spiner playing a Soong ancestor during the augment episodes and overall Jeffery Combs as the Andorian commander, Shran. I first saw it on Channel 4 in bits and pieces (think it kept getting moved etc). The last episode feels a little out of place.

Like most Star Trek TV series it takes a couple of seasons to find its feet...even TNG had some wobbly episodes in the early days! Latter episodes more than make up for the early shortcomings.
 
season 1 TNG has some 100% cheese, all of the series do but the cheese leader has to be voyager by a country mile.

TNG is probally my favorite still some of the classic eps stand up to anything thats been on TV.

Enterprise started rough but built quite well, i still think it was killed before it came to its peak.

TNG
Enterprise/DS9 tied (both have bad parts that really distract from the good)
Voyager
TOS (as classic as it is its still got more ham and cheese than a typical toastie)

B5 is the best though even though they messed it around, i stll wonder how good it could have been.
 
Demoniser said:
I think the trek franchise as a whole has had some pretty decent acting tbh. Patrick Stewart will usually be up there with the best because of the amount of Shakespeare that was injected into TNG. Brent Spiner (Data) also had a wide range of acting skills, that is when he was given the opportunity to break character from the norm.

Avery Brooks, Kate Mulgrew and Scott Bakula were all decent enough in the captains seat, but people like Armin Shimerman (Quark) & Andrew J Robinson (Garak) really made those secondary characters come alive, and they're some of the most memorable bits of the entire franchise.
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Yes some of Garak lines and interactions were absolutely superb, some of the best comedy mixed with the maleovalance.
In Voyager 7of9 and Tuvuks lines were often the best.
 
Love Star Trek. Watched TOS when I was a nipper and it was first airing on the box (allowed to stay up on a school night to watch it :) )which got me started.

Then there was the big 'it will never be the same' when TNG came out, but how it soon wowed us with the special effects :D

Favourite is TNG, then voyager, TOS, and equal last with enterprise and DS9 for me.

Love B5 too and have been buying the seasons off itunes atm :) Middle of watching season 4 on that one.

I also remember Crusade which followed B5 and watched some of that. IIRC it was canceled after only a few episodes :( shame about that as it wasn't bad...
 
Enterprise was quite good, the third season was probably the best.

Tony343 said:
I also remember Crusade which followed B5 and watched some of that. IIRC it was canceled after only a few episodes :( shame about that as it wasn't bad...
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Yeah Crusade only had 13 episodes before it got cancelled which was a shame as it looked like it had potential.
 
Its no TNG but imo 2nd or 3rd best series season 1 is the poorest tough but it does have a few good episodes. season 3 is by far the best tough
 
I first thought It Wasn't that good, but it only took me 3-4 episodes to really start enjoyin it, i guess it helped with the guy that played sam becket from quantum leap as captain archer but it really tipped the scales with Jolene Blaloc, think the producers may even give her a show of her own next thing she's in. i was gutted when i found out i had seen the last of it after watching series 4.... i was expecting it to take on atleast 7 or more episodes....
flox really made me chuckle at times the way he'd always talk out of the side of his mouth lol aswell as his races sexual relations... the episode when his wife was in it really made me laugh
 
Im surprised at the variety of choices in regards to what series people think is the best. I was under the impression that the general feeling is that DS9/TNG are rated highly with Voyager and Enterprise coming in behind. They all have their good and bad points, just interesting to see so many split opinions.
 
DS9 was the biggest pile of crap on TV,

voyager was the better of the recent ST's then it was a toss up between generations and Enterprise,
if you take sex appeal into consideration the Enterprise was the best out of the lot with Ta'pau been the hottest then Hoshi
 
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