It is true, but it has to be made available for transfers, not neccessarily spent on transfers, so we're basically stockpiling money which we can spend, but there apparently isn't any value in the market (which is why it's hard to begrudge Wenger not spending, can you blame him for staying out of this twisted and obscene market, competing with unlimited wealth for average players who cost twice what they're worth)
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It is true, but it has to be made available for transfers, not neccessarily spent on transfers, so we're basically stockpiling money which we can spend, but there apparently isn't any value in the market (which is why it's hard to begrudge Wenger not spending, can you blame him for staying out of this twisted and obscene market, competing with unlimited wealth for average players who cost twice what they're worth)
No chance both will be in Arsenal shirts next season, maybe Nasri, probably not Fabregas, and let's face it, there's only about 3 or 4 players who are vital to the club (Fabregas, RvP, Wilshere) and Fabregas is far and away the most important. So with the likelyhood of him leaving, it's very, very difficult to care about Nasri at all, but he still won't be going to Man Utd.
Correctly so, Wenger isn't the problem, Wenger is one of the few sane/sensible managers left in the transfer market. The problem is the billionaires and the clubs who couldn't care less about debt or retaining a modicum of correct business procedure, and the way they've utterly distorted the market to make it so that any club who runs like a normal business (us) or isn't super rich (everybody bar 1% of clubs) are basically priced out of most of their targets. Clubs think it's normal to ask for £35m for Andy Carroll now rather than really, really, really, really weird, and the kicker is, people will pay it. Leaves most clubs struggling apart from the 'lucky' few
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The difference is, if City, Liverpool and Utd are out there buying up all the English talent for ridiculous sums, do people not realise that leaves hundreds of other targets, who aren't overvalued, with few clubs interested in them?
For every Nasri, there ARE 5 other players who are better, who will cost sub 10mil, that you just don't know about, thats football.
Pires is for me up there with the best left wingers this league has ever seen, was he overpriced?
Theres this overwhelming thinking that because some players are overpriced, everyone will be, yet for coming up on 15 years people have been overspending on players, yet other clubs have been getting insanely good value deals, again thats football.
60mil for Kaka, 18mil for Ozil, 2mil for Diarra, 5mil for Diarra, 20mil for Diarra.
Young will be better than most 30mil big name wingers you could get from the top teams in Spain/Italy, DeJong cost 18mil when 6 months later he'd have been way way less, but buying early got them one of the best DM's in the world. Kompany was 5mil, and SWP was what, 23mil or something to Chelsea.
There has ALWAYS been great deals and horrible deals EVERY transfer window. If you insist on buying English players who are overhyped, you won't get good deals, nothing forcing anyone to buy overhyped English players though.
Heavily strengthen? What on earth are you on about?
Fans have been saying this for the past 5 years and look what we have achieved. "MUFC have no world class players blah blah blah". Sorry, how much silverware have we won? It doesn't take world class players to make a world class team, MUFC is a perfect example of that. We had arguably one of the worst midfields of recent squads, yet we still won the league and came runners up in the Champions League.
Vidic, Evra, Ferdinand, Nani and Rooney are easily up there with the worlds best. The rest of the team may lack that edge, but they work as a team and play well together.
With recent signings and also if we manage to sign either Modric or Sneijder, Manchester United will be challenging for years to come (and winning).
De Gea
Fabio - Ferdinand/Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Young - XXXXX - Fletcher/Carrick - Nani
Rooney - Hernandez
Fabio, Smalling, Young, Modric (if we sign him), Nani, Hernandez and De Gea are only going to improve. That team is easily up there with the worlds best.
Fabio - Ferdinand/Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Young - XXXXX - Fletcher/Carrick - Nani
Rooney - Hernandez
Fabio, Smalling, Young, Modric (if we sign him), Nani, Hernandez and De Gea are only going to improve. That team is easily up there with the worlds best.
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Complete tosh, paying Eboue 50k a week to never play is exactly as bad business wise as spending 10mil more than you should on some English player.
Vela, Eboue, Bendtner, Eduardo, Rosicky, you're probably looking at 250k a week for those guys to barely play a minute, we replaced Eduardo with a guy on 80k a week, who now sits on the bench.
Denilson, Diaby, Song, Squillaci, all horrible business, letting Sol walk out for no reason at all, letting Flamini and Gilberto leave for nothing, etc, etc.
Rich clubs overspending on some players does not in any way make every other player bad value, to keep excusing Wenger because some other clubs overspend like idiots, is daft.
UTd have spent 50mil already in transfer fee's, but they'll spend 130mil+ in wages next season, and this is a HUGE season for them in the transfer market, the wages are every year without fail.
Transfer fee's AREN'T where business's are run well or not, wages dwarf the spending on transfers, 10mil extra here or there really won't kill a club or make that much difference. The reason Arsenal aren't buying isn't wages when we're a cash rich club, its our long term sustainability which is 100% derived from the wages we can afford, if you throw wages away on tosh, you can't bring in better players.
As always Wengers massive failing is not recognising the players in the squad who aren't good enough.
Did Utd spend when they got 80mil? or when they removed a crap load of wages off the book, the latter.
Would rather see Rafael playing to be honest over Fabio. Always thought he was the better of the two.
lolArsenal, enjoy O'Shea if that's true.
To be fair, he would probably be useful for you to have, he's not a bottler
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Every time people here talk of overpriced players Andy Carroll comes in as the best example. I also thought he was over priced but not to the level you guys make it look. Can any one with clear statistics about him (at least for the passed 2 seasons) post them here.
Because am getting worried shouldn't KK be looking for another striker in the market if AC is far over rated.
Because am getting worried shouldn't KK be looking for another striker in the market if AC is far over rated.
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