Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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drunkenmaster said:
The champs league isn't why people are talking about the EPL being crap, although the quality of Chelsea's football throughout the competitions does suggest so, they won playing their "lets sit deep and pray really really really really really hard". Bayern went out there and dominated Barca, who themselves usually go out and dominate other teams, they all played great football. Utd, Arsenal, City haven't either, not for 3-4 years. Utd are being spanked into the Europa league or going out with poor performances, City were a complete joke, Arsenal looked poor and got spanked by Bayern/Milan.

But its watching the actual premier league where you can VERY easily see how crap its getting, and star players not wanting to stay here, I've said that for years, but there are always replacements. One of the reasons for the overall leagues decline is poorly buying foreign players, sticking with guys like Valencia when Utd can afford to bring in a top notch player instead. But ultimately the Spanish league relies incredibly heavily on Spanish players, the German league relies on german players.... the english league still has a huge contingent of English players, and the gulf in quality between them and the rest is, well, insurmountable.

English players seem to have gone backwards, while Spanish/German and generally european trained players have improved.

Seriously Cleverley, AOC, Welbeck are seen as the best of the new generation of English players.......... welbeck, lol. Germany gets Muller, Gotze and 20 others who are so far ahead of the new English crop of players it is nothing short of embarrassing.

THe homegrown rules and forcing teams like Utd to not only hang on to guys like Welbeck, but end up giving him 85k a week because they have to keep English guys in the team, for City to be spending over 20mil on Milner, more than £4 on Barry, we just gave Walcott 100k a week to stay.

Worst thing the EPL did was introduce the homegrown rules, it instantly gave english players better bargaining power, and meant all of the league paying english players more than they are worth which meant less cash for paying foreign players to ignore living in nicer places with nicer weather to live in places like Manchester.

The prem league has been dropping off in quality massively for 4-5 years, and the champions league has smeg all to do with proof. You can just watch the league, its less entertaining, with worse quality players, with less skill and more teams fighting to be the worst rather than the best.
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There's a difference though the Premier League and the FA though. The Premier league is not going backwards at all, like Mourinho said recently, the standard next to other leagues in the world is second to none. What other league is worth more than the Premier League? You've just had a situation which hasn't favoured english clubs this year, Mancini being a duff manager. Man U having an unfortunate red card against Real. Mourinho and Pellegrini will be be battling their corners this season though, Arsenal could be spending this year, who knows. There will be 3/4 english sides in the last 8 of the champions league next year.
The standard of the premier league is unfortunately the block on younger english talent though, the talent is there, it's just being stifled. The premier league is not the FA, they have two different agendas. This is the problem!
 
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Stewy said:
it scares me that Welbeck is on 80k a week, he is absolutely village.
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What does that translate to in English?

If 'street' means wearing a cap at a jaunty angle while mouthing rap lyrics, I can only assume 'village' means wearing a dads army tin bowl while braving the trip to the local organ-playing facility?
 
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They tried to include Ramires as part of the deal according to Palmieiri.

Di Marzio (One of the best journalists) says that Napoli want Dzeko which surely means that we are still in talks and are just arguing over how much money we give them as well as Dzeko.

Gazzeta Dello Sport running the story we have bid 30m for El Shaawaray as well, haven't seen him play so I don't know how good he is but looking at his stats he was on fire until Balotelli joined and since then has struggled a bit. Before Balotelli joined though he was their main man.
 
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Wayn0r said:
Arsensal supporters, you can have Rooney for a nominal fee + Ox thank you please.

After all, Fergie did you a favour buying a wantaway striker in RVP... ;)
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Rather you kept Rooney to honest. £300k wages? Having a laugh, no way anyone is going to pay that except some French team.

Only going to get worse from here on, and I never rated him that highly to begin with.
 
bloodline76 said:
Isn't that what we want? A tap in artist. I wouldn't say no lol
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I wouldn't say no either! I think we definitely need another striker, we've got that French kid from Auxerre and Giroud had a productive season but I think we still lack something up front. Giroud is not clinical but he produced reasonable end of season results given the fact that he was playing in a new team against unfamiliar opponents. I think we could do with somebody who offers us something different to Giroud so that we have an effective plan B but then I look at the flanks and who we have there and can't help but feel that is an area which is in need of investment more than another goalscorer.

Podolski is a good player but he's not creative, he's the type that you would play up front alongside Giroud, he can finish clinically and he offers us something that Giroud can't in terms of mobility. Maybe we should be looking at buying a more creative player for the left wing instead and pushing Podolski up top.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I wouldn't say no either! I think we definitely need another striker, we've got that French kid from Auxerre and Giroud had a productive season but I think we still lack something up front. Giroud is not clinical but he produced reasonable end of season results given the fact that he was playing in a new team against unfamiliar opponents. I think we could do with somebody who offers us something different to Giroud so that we have an effective plan B but then I look at the flanks and who we have there and can't help but feel that is an area which is in need of investment more than another goalscorer.

Podolski is a good player but he's not creative, he's the type that you would play up front alongside Giroud, he can finish clinically and he offers us something that Giroud can't in terms of mobility. Maybe we should be looking at buying a more creative player for the left wing instead and pushing Podolski up top.
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I like Giroud and think he will add to his goals next season but like yourself we could do with a plan B. Saying that, Pod, Santi and Walcott did pretty well up front in the last few games.

I still think we need another striker when Giroud is missing. We can't reply on the new french lad, if he does well it must be a pleasant surprise.

Its going to be a long summer
 
Not sure on the French kid either, I'd just read somewhere that he isn't being offered back to Auxerre on loan which probably means he is seen as first squad material, in which case we'd probably not be in for any other strikers given that we have at least 4 players on the roster who want that position already.

I think we're likely to buy a midfielder of some description and possibly a new defender, what we'd like and what Wenger will do are two different things though! The good news is that a few of the high-ups have been talking about our finances as if it is the first time in a while that we have significant funds at our disposal. Wenger will never change his philosophy but judging Gazidis on his recent comments we could potentially break our record transfer fee this summer.

Higuain will do nicely, we just need Juventus to buy Tevez instead to pave the way. :D
 
Andybtsn said:
Is Cabaye saying he's open to a MUFC move like Pardew ruling himself out of the England job?
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maybe if he followed up his great first season with a great second...

Yes he added more goals and played less in the league but he generally was pap...


Him being linked to UTD is nothing new this is just a storm in a tea pot he has said many times he would like to play for them and Paul Scholes is his idol.

Anyhows if true we seem to make a bang tidy profit
 
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