"Super fast broadband"

Well I've registered my interest but since our exchange isn't on any of the lists to be upgraded thus far its still going to be a while before we get it even if we ever do. Currently they have lists published utill the end of march 2011. Hopefully they add more after Christmas instead of just halting the roll out completely.

Just one more sign that the infrastructure in this country really hasn't been looked after properly.
 
What's with the carrot crunchers getting all this fibre first? Are their current connections too slow to cope with their apps for spread betting on the price of Wurzels or something? :p
 
doofer said:
Does the majority of the Board of BT reside in (Or are thinking of moving to..) the Scilly Isles or something?

Also, this was brought up a few days ago, how are BT allowed to charge Line Rental for Phone Lines when Gas, Water, Electricity don't charge any rental for their lines/pipes? It is a ridiculous charge and should be abolished.
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+1 it is ridiculous and anti competitive. WIsh I could get cable where I was now I can't stand having to pay bt a thing.
 
doofer said:
Also, this was brought up a few days ago, how are BT allowed to charge Line Rental for Phone Lines when Gas, Water, Electricity don't charge any rental for their lines/pipes? It is a ridiculous charge and should be abolished.
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Line Rental is the equivalent of the standing charge that many utilities companies still levy on certain tarrifs. Standing charges have only started to disapear from the utilities as a result of competition, as soon as a significant number of BT's rivals drops line rental then BT will have to consider the same

Tombstone said:
What I want to know is what the speed is...

BT are really on an advertising push at the moment, radio, tv, magazines...always saying the buzz-phrase "Super Fast Broadband". Not once though have I actually seen them say precisely what that translates as.

Now, I'm already on a 50mb broadband with Virgin. Within the next year Virgin will be offering 100mb broadband and I believe they are shortly undergoing limited tests on a 250mb broadband. So BT...what exactly are you calling Super Fast? Does it match my 50mb? Is it faster? or are we simply talking 24mb, which for me at least is super slow broadband not super fast :)
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Comparing Virgin speeds to BT it just unfair, the fibre that virgin uses was layed very recently at massive costs to a business that seems to have gone bust several times. Currently as far as I can tell virgin have no intention of expanding their network significantly as the costs are vast and they simply can't afford it!

BT on the otherhand has a massive legacy network that was setup dinkeys years ago by a public sector body, and we all know what a mess they made. BT now as a private sector company have invested vast sums of money back into the network with huge upgrades in recent years and the delivery of broadband services to areas that companies like Virgin will never touch. I'm not saying they are perfect but the FTTC project will supply more than enough speed and bandwidth for 99% of home use and I'm sure will get faster in the future as the infrastructure is in place.

Finally this project to upgrade Cornwall is only happenening at this time because of the European Union part funding it, it is not in BT's business interests to do it for any other reason hence their focus on fttc upgrades in areas of maximum porfit for minimum investment.
 
Why would it be mentioned as a trial roll out if it was BT Infinity (FTTC)? When it's already being rolled out properly across the country.

I'm sure this will be FTTP (cable), otherwise there would be no story at all.
 
It's a conspiracy, maybe the government is setting up a secret service operation in the island of Scilly. Btw, is it just me or when I say Scilly I think of Sicily which is far more awesome then Scilly.
 
does anyone know what the deal is with LLU of FTTC? presumably itll be the same as at the moment?

example my local exchange is supposed to get FTTC in december but im in a sky bundle, will sky be able to offer me fibre when its available?
 
neil_g said:
does anyone know what the deal is with LLU of FTTC? presumably itll be the same as at the moment?

example my local exchange is supposed to get FTTC in december but im in a sky bundle, will sky be able to offer me fibre when its available?
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At present the only resellers are those signed up to BT's 21CN i.e. currently reselling BT's adsl 2+. BeThere are trialling soon, but I think it's going to involve them putting new equip in
 
I live in central London (around 4 miles from the centre) and get broadband speeds of up to about 300kb on a good day. I dream of the day I get a 1mb connection.

How much do houses on the Isle of Scilly cost?
 
At first glance the decision to cover Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly seems a bit unusual, but there is actually a great deal of logic behind it.

1. It is quite a political move. The Government (both old and new) have been noises in recent years about rolling out broadband to rural areas. By choosing to cable Cornwall and, in particular the Isles, they are making a statement that they are acting in the best interests of the country as a whole (i.e. as defined by the Government). This buys them political capital and will allow them some slack in the future. Any time they are accused of pandering to the needs of big cities, they will always be able to point to their cabling of the Isles of Scilly as a counterargument.

2. The EU funding. This is a significant chunk of the investment (40% of the total project cost), and so makes it a good opportunity to invest in the network in this area.
 
Duff-Man said:
At first glance the decision to cover Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly seems a bit unusual, but there is actually a great deal of logic behind it.
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Cornwall gets extra cash as on average its a poor area. Until some of the new EU members joined it was one of the poorer areas of Europe.
 
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