Superchips or Revo remap? (Group buy anyone?)
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[TW]Fox;17603812 said:Is this the 2.0 TSI that was almost a 1.4 TSI as you were worried about your little brother having too much power?
LOL yah that’s the one, but every time I drive it I feel like its a waste of a good engine not to have the remap. It’s like having a 335i without Leather and Nav
Personally I'd stay away from any tuning boxes or pre set maps.
Every engine is different and has different levels of tolerance.
Ideally you want a before RR, a base map installedand another RR done, then the mapper to tweak the map to your engine followed by a final go on the RR.
This plus an induction kit cost me £380 and about 5 hours of my time, well worth taking a day off work to get the personal stuff done.
I've seen cars with tuning boxes be fine for 100k but then the same engine in other cars die after 20k because that engine couldn't handle the torque. Not worth the risk on something so new when a proper mapper can do it safely and usually as cheap.
Every engine is different and has different levels of tolerance.
Ideally you want a before RR, a base map installedand another RR done, then the mapper to tweak the map to your engine followed by a final go on the RR.
This plus an induction kit cost me £380 and about 5 hours of my time, well worth taking a day off work to get the personal stuff done.
I've seen cars with tuning boxes be fine for 100k but then the same engine in other cars die after 20k because that engine couldn't handle the torque. Not worth the risk on something so new when a proper mapper can do it safely and usually as cheap.
I can't actually be bothered to reply to such crud.
What car I drive has no bearing on the fact that every engine is different. Pre load a powerful map to a car that can't take the power and you'll soon find bits failing and going wrong. Have a map properly tailored and tuned to your engine and you'll be a happy bunny.
Also please try to at least include one full understandable sentence in each post.
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no it wont. there are millions of variables, the main one being how its driven. my own car had a generic customcode software added at 80k miles a few years back. its now on 160k miles. i have further tweaked the map since May this year. it has not exploded and its on the original clutch
a friend of mine, his was remapped at 80k, years ago, with generic software. his clutch didnt fail until 220k miles
so thats speaking from personal experience.
what personal experience are you referring to?
If anything your first paragraph proves my point that a custom tweaked map is better, your second paragraph simply states you know someone who has had a standard map and there car didn't blow up - brilliant, there are thousands like this. Personally I would want a tailored job done on my car, especially as this is a brand new expensive VW.
You also seem to consider the clutch as the major point when remapping, how about the gearbox, the fuel pump, injectors, the turbo plus other bits?
I'm not going to derail the thread anymore as I can't really see why you are arguing.
*Sigh*
Had my car remapped, then tweaked a further two times.
Been along to have the following mapped and tuned: Audi A3, TT, Supra, Golf GTI (Mk5), Astra 1.8, Punto, my Bravo and Grande Punto.
I've spoken with many mappers doing for different brands and seen a load more cars get done while I've been waiting around.
I'm seriously not going to keep replying when you're not adding anything to the thread.
My point is valid and should be considered, it doesn't matter what car I drive.
In the SR20DET tuning world we normally go down one of two routes. Either a 'generic' tuning chip from H-Dev which alters the map and assumes various supporting modifications (like a min-spec for PCs) or a custom map done unique to the car and its modifications.
The chips come in various stages (1,1a,2,3 etc) and are used by many many people with no major issue assuming the relevant supporting mods are present. Obviously a custom map will be able to tweak more power from the engine but the generics maps are by no means 'dangerous'.
The chips come in various stages (1,1a,2,3 etc) and are used by many many people with no major issue assuming the relevant supporting mods are present. Obviously a custom map will be able to tweak more power from the engine but the generics maps are by no means 'dangerous'.
Caporegime
Forget what you think about how the car feels, how does your brother, the one who drives the car feel about it? You bought him the car, let him mod it 
Some could be considered dangerous, you get maps which totally push the stock engine to the limit and because every engine is different with different strengths of the internals and such it can cause problems.
Why take the risk on a brand new £20k car when you can get a safe tweaked map for the same price.
you can look at all the car in the world getting mapped or dynod on youtube, what are you going to learn from that? i have worked on, tweaked/tuned countless cars
there is a lot more to it than "get custom software or itll break". that may apply to your italian diesel, but doesnt apply to everything
I don't own an italian diesel.
I think the point I was making was I've seen and discussed custom maps for those cars, speaking to each mapper they all have different things they like to do but generally you want a custom map to be the safest and get the most out of an engine without causing reliability issues.
General maps might work for most cars, but when you get that odd engine that isn't going to hold up and end up doing your turbo in, is it really worth it.
Soldato
Theres just a lot better companies out there with better trained staff,,,,
They put up with my questions for 2 years before I decided to remap, they had good knowledge and helped on all technical issues. Plus a 10% discount being with an Audi forum
The put on put off remap is great, but I don't believe when they take your setting and customise it, I think they put a generic one on (or select from a set of generic ones).
Man of Honour
After the DR Colorchips fiasco, we're not allowing them anymore.
Caporegime
I know that went south but that was for reasons other than trying to deceive forum members iirc, i haven't looked but is it covered in the FAQ / Forum rules?
Man of Honour