Supplements the debate/discussion thread

Protein shouldn't denature through cooking - I thought 5g per 100g was fairly normal for Quinoa? Remember that cooked != dry as it will have a lot more water in it.

IF you want decent amino acid score from your carbs, beans are best. The offer a good amino acid profile, good ratio of carbs/fat/protein.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2324/2
 
Moobert said:
All these issues popping up on these forums about TPW is making me reconsider bothering to buy from there again tbh.
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Really? I've never had an issue with them - they've always been exceptional. And when they cocked up once, I got another equivalent order for free. Just depends on how you deal with their CS forums and how strong a case you have.

I'm a serial letter writer though if I don't get what I expect in terms of service! :p
 
It depends on what they bulk out the powders with (if they do at all, they do this less now) and the quality of the whey, what percentage it is (80%-90% etc...), if it isolate or not, how much dairy there is in there, and whether or not you're lactose intolerant or not. Plus a multitude of manufacturing processes.
 
That's still over £1 per bar - just buy a tub of peanut butter and munch on that - it's a lot cheaper g for g...

That £15 can be used to buy all the ingredients to make your own too ;)

I'm just not a fan of protein bars/snacks so I'm a bit biased - it's your money :)
 
It's just hideously expensive in my opinion for the nutrition it gives but of course everyone has their different priorities on what they want to spend their money on, and not everyone is as nutritionally savvy as some of us here, and it's a quick easy way to get what you think you need. :) Whatever works for you. :)
 
I don't get "cutting" and "bulking" phases but then again I'm not a bodybuilder ;)

I'm just hugely sceptical of the supplement industry as they've propagated so many myths (the favourite being that you must have protein within an hour of a work out - LOL!) and that slow/fast acting proteins are critical etc... Oh and that people "get gains" when on certain proteins/or supplements - that really makes me chortle.

I completely understand why they do it though - it's brilliant marketing and sale strategy - and people who like to snack, and eat a "treat" will love things like protein cookies and flapjacks etc... And that's fine, people can spend their money on what they want - as long as people realise they're not special bits of food. However, extra protein supplementation isn't a bad thing when a lot of people do not know how to cook or know anything about nutrition - again they're ideal candidates for the supplement industry.

Whether I'd choose a floppy tuna sandwich or a protein bar is a tough call... I'd probably go for some pre-cooked chicken, salad and an avocado :p

I'm not stating people shouldn't take supplements, but just realise that there is a huge mark up on the prices and that they're not as good as they sell them to be - a little bit of rational questioning is required.

However, if you get a good deal and you like them, go for it and enjoy them, and if they help you get the calories you need, then as long as you're happy that's all that matters. :)
 
sunama said:
Cost, my friend. Cost.
Tuna sandwich for £1.50 is going to be significantly cheaper than 'pre-cooked chicken, salad and an avocado'.
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But if you're spending £25 on a dozen protein bars, and you get 2x more nutrition from spending the same on chicken, salad and an avocado which is better value for money?

Can you afford NOT to eat good quality foods?
 
Just so glad I'm not poor :p

Joking aside, when I was struggling to make ends meet I sacrificed other things to ensure I could buy the best quality foods I could - but things like protein shakes did come into their own to get extra nutrition in me.
 
So you basically took expensive supplements which is basically just caffeine and green tea... So all it will be is making you have a bit more of a thermogenic state which can be achieved through diet tweaking for a lot less money.

I love how people think legal fat burners are miracles....
 
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