Supplements the debate/discussion thread

No you don't need to if you have a well balanced diet. I had a full health check 10 months ago, including numerous blood tests to do numerous checks and all my levels were optimal for my age and so on. I supplement only with fish oils (in small quantities) and protein to get extra nutrition in me and a selective choice of amino acids that I feel add benefit to me.
 
the reason people suggest oats is because they're cheap and an easy way of bulking which is easier than 100ml of olive oil which is about 900 cals.

We've already suggested good fats.

There is also no such thing as a hard gainer.

You just need to eat the right foods, and eat enough of them.

3k cals is easily achievable healthily with good macros etc... Heck 3 meals a day with snacks is easy to hit 3k cals. Most people do not suffer from metabolic syndrome.

Weight gainers/mass gainers are a waste of time, loaded with sugars and poor nutritional profile.

MCTs, fats and complex carbs are going to the best way of getting the calories, notwithstanding proteins are also still important.

I know you're on Ramadan, but if you want to keep your calories high you'll have to eat the right foods which you can eat over a short period of time, and also perhaps get up early before you have to start fasting to get another meal in.
 
Fish oils are for me a basic supplement that a lot of people should be taking owing to our diets missing a lot of EFAs (omega oils) and the health benefits have been empirically proven. Clearly a balanced diet is just as important but things like fish oils aren't going to be a waste as long as you take it with food :)
 
pogomonkeh said:
Any recommendations for supplements to help with weight loss/maintaining weight loss?

Have been drinking usn/phd diet whey recently and has helped me to kick certain habits to one side and loose weight but loosing slight interest in the shakes.
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No such thing exists unless you are willing to use items that aren't strictly legit.

Diet and exercise intensity, with sensible diet hormonal manipulation can have a good effect - but it is not a quick win.
 
And that's the problem, every body is different had different diets and lifestyles as well as body composition/makeup - not entirely a scientific study.

Anecdotal experience is that I definitely feel "better" taking a decent regular dose of DAA - but I have a relatively decent amount of lean mass, and relatively decent diet and lifestyle.
 
I haven't noticed issues with their chicken but I don't buy anything other than lean meats - all the processed foods like sausages and so on I just buy from the shops as a treat. I did get some sausages free as a trial about 6 months back, and I thought they were very good,. I couldn't comment on the current batch though.
 
The only situation where supplementation timing is important is if you're taking caffeine based supplements before a workout. Otherwise it's all a big con from the supplements industry.

Learn, read, study how supplements behave and make up your own mind and your own regimen on when to take your supplements to suit your lifestyle and training choices.

There is no "anabolic window", you don't need shed loads of whey protein. Some supplements do have an effect on metabolism, and of course taking them before bed won't be conducive to sleep, but don't get fussed on taking x supplements every y hours z times a day.

To be honest, unless you're an elite athlete a lot of this will be a waste anyway.
 
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