Switching to Canon ?

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Basically I want to go to FF at some point, without wasting money on DX only lenses. The D700 would be ideal but it

a. is more expensive than a 5dmk2
b. doesnt do video, i know theres pros and cons to this but the stillmotion videos of the 5dmk2 video are amazing.

and I like the look of the L glasses you feel like you own something special whilst the nikon lenses dont look any different.

So whats the best way ? Do i buy a 24-70L and a 50d now, and then get a 5dmk2 in the future, or do i buy a 5dmk2 now and a 50mm 1.8 as thats all i will be able to afford (i need tripod and head and softboxes etc).

Or do i just stick with the D70 (but all the lenses i have are £100 new ones) and its crappy glass ?
 
Thats also a possible idea,but 5d wont do video will it ? And has a bad screen or something ? That said, im loving the work scarysquirrel does on 5d+24-70L.
 
I wouldn't personally buy a 50D and then upgrade to the 5DMKii later, to me it seems like a bit of waste, no?

If you can afford to buy the 5DMKii just now, go for it!

Unless you have cause to use both in the future I would buy the 5DMkii and the 50mm if that's what you can afford, then in time get your choice of lens.

Spend well, spend once.
 
IMO, get the issues sorted out that you were having in your SLR thread first - start to turn out stuff that you're happy with using what you have - then start to think about where you want to go with cameras and lenses. You'll have the same trouble with another camera, and be poorer too.
 
twoblacklines said:
and I like the look of the L glasses you feel like you own something special whilst the nikon lenses dont look any different.
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Nikon 'professional' lenses have a gold ring at the front of the lens. As on the 17-55 DX and 70-200 which I have and any others which they feel are professional rather than enthusiast products. But to be honest your entire reason for wanting L glass seems to be vanity from what you said there...it's good yes but it won't make you a good photographer on it's own.
 
Learn to use what you have before trying to buy better pictures . If u must upgrade get a D90 and stick with the lenses you have .

Persil
 
twoblacklines said:
Basically I want to go to FF at some point, without wasting money on DX only lenses. The D700 would be ideal but it

a. is more expensive than a 5dmk2
b. doesnt do video, i know theres pros and cons to this but the stillmotion videos of the 5dmk2 video are amazing.

and I like the look of the L glasses you feel like you own something special whilst the nikon lenses dont look any different.

So whats the best way ? Do i buy a 24-70L and a 50d now, and then get a 5dmk2 in the future, or do i buy a 5dmk2 now and a 50mm 1.8 as thats all i will be able to afford (i need tripod and head and softboxes etc).

Or do i just stick with the D70 (but all the lenses i have are £100 new ones) and its crappy glass ?
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The D700 replacement is coming soon with video.
If you buy a Nikon pro glass it is every bit as good as Canon L glass, and has the imortant advnatage of a gold ring on a black barrel rather than unattarctive red ring on dirty grey....

Buy a Nikon 24-70, 14-24 and the new 70-200 VR 2, then buy the Nikon full frame with the video you want...

Or just learnt o take better photos with the equipment you have.

a 5dmk2 and a mountian of L glass wont make you a pro photographer, merely empty your bank account. And this seems an astounding post after your previous posts
 
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What is the best nikon lens available for normal shooting for a crop sensor ? Something equivalent to a 24-70 FX but for DX ? im guessing 18-50mm f2.8 ?
 
I have £1600 in bank account but I need a tripod and ball head (first priorities). I have the D70, SB600, 18-70 cheapo, 70-300 cheapo, and a 50mm 1.8d on loan from uni.
 
twoblacklines said:
What is the best nikon lens available for normal shooting for a crop sensor ? Something equivalent to a 24-70 FX but for DX ? im guessing 18-50mm f2.8 ?
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I have the 17-55 DX f2.8 - it's fantastic and probably the nearest thing to what you describe.

But you'd be stupid to buy it under any circumstances. I bought it before Nikon had full frame digital and as such if I upgrade to a D700 or similar then I need to replace this (very expensive) lens as well. Don't make that mistake. If you must have the best lens in that range buy the 24-70 f2.8 but keep in the mind if you don't need the performance of those lenses then the old 18-70 kit lens was very good indeed for image quality.

Some of the best shots I've ever taken were with a D70 and 18-70 kit years ago and I miss that gear sometimes because the 17-55 and D200 is seriously heavy to carry round all day. I'd say if you're still trying to improve your photography then buy a decent tripod and stop, you are not limited by your equipment. Look at what Ken Rockwell (whatever you think of him) produces with a D40, or look at the best camera photos taken with an iphone...
 
Going from your previous posts/threads, L quality glass and switching from Nikon to Canon wont make you suddenly start exposing shots correctly. Learn the basics first, which your current setup is more than capable of, before splashing out on expensive products.
 
I thought I'd just add, you really need to sit down and think what type of photography you like doing, and why you need to go full frame. In my opinion, the D700 is generally a better camera than the 5DMk2. But, if you must have HD video ( on a camera ) then obviously the D700 won't fulfill that need for you. For me, the only positive aspect of the 5DMk2 is it's higher resolution at a competitive price. But, it's autofocusing capabilities, build, frames per second and high ISO performance are considerably less than the D700.

Regardless which camera you decide on, either will be a massive step up from a D70. Both cameras demand the best lenses to get the most from their sensors. So, either way it is going to be a costly exercise.
 
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xaldub said:
it's autofocusing capabilities, build, frames per second and high ISO performance are considerably less than the D700.

Regardless which camera you decide on, either will be a massive step up from a D70. Both cameras demand the best lenses to get the most from their sensors. So, either way it is going to be a costly exercise.
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I won'y say its considerable, especially not ISO performance or build quality. I give you the AF & FPS though.
 
twoblacklines said:
a. is more expensive than a 5dmk2 D700 Build quality is better IMO, and also a lot better weather sealed (See here; http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/antarctica-2009-worked.shtml)
b. doesnt do video, i know theres pros and cons to this but the stillmotion videos of the 5dmk2 video are amazing. A lot of the really nice videos you see made with the 5DMk2 (And I admit they are nice) are also using thousands of pounds worth of steadycam gear. So just because you have a 5Dmk2 doesn't mean you will be making IMAX quality video.

and I like the look of the L glasses you feel like you own something special whilst the nikon lenses dont look any different. Bit of a silly reason to change, but if you want to go down that route, then just get the white versions of the Nikon lenses;

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Not that there is any point, as Canon use white lenses due to them having fluorite elements which are susceptible to temperature changes. Nikon do not use fluorite elements.

So whats the best way ? Do i buy a 24-70L and a 50d now, and then get a 5dmk2 in the future, or do i buy a 5dmk2 now and a 50mm 1.8 as thats all i will be able to afford (i need tripod and head and softboxes etc).

Or do i just stick with the D70 (but all the lenses i have are £100 new ones) and its crappy glass ?
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No offence dude but like many have said before me as I've said before on your thread regarding film camera switch; a little reading up on camera use wouldn't do harm. It might be that your current Nikon has an issue with exposure, it might just be the wrong settings but spending thousands on a lens don't suddenly jump you into the path of great photography.

Here's a very simple example of what a good photographer have: a good eye and composition, even when shooting with a simple compact camera (Panasonic LX3, not even close to your current kit performance)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/harrivayrynen/sets/72157612903133174/

Don't get on the path of lens envy.
And also, whoever your canon friend is, I hope he's not some fanboi who keeps on babbling on about how good his Canon is over yours, thus making you feel unease.
 
Mr Jones said:
No offence dude but like many have said before me as I've said before on your thread regarding film camera switch; a little reading up on camera use wouldn't do harm. It might be that your current Nikon has an issue with exposure, it might just be the wrong settings but spending thousands on a lens don't suddenly jump you into the path of great photography.

Here's a very simple example of what a good photographer have: a good eye and composition, even when shooting with a simple compact camera (Panasonic LX3, not even close to your current kit performance)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/harrivayrynen/sets/72157612903133174/

Don't get on the path of lens envy.
And also, whoever your canon friend is, I hope he's not some fanboi who keeps on babbling on about how good his Canon is over yours, thus making you feel unease.
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Superb advise. I still keep thinking I'm wanting a new body but my Sony A100 has become almost a part of me and I'd be sad to see it go..

Its old, clunky and has horrible high ISO performance but its still capable of knocking a decent still even with cheapo glass. I even use the kit lens from time to time...

So as said before, get to grips with you D70. It may be old by today's standards but its certainly doesn't make it obsolete. Just look at some of the pics on the Flickr D70 pool.

I wouldn't even be thinking about full frame and L quality lenses yet.
 
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