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Syria - What is to be done?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by George Hincapie, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. arknor

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    america should hurry up and bomb assad whilst arming the rebels.

    hopefully we stay out of it.

    america can deal with all the terrorism and bombings that come back to bite them
     
  2. gettothechopper

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  3. Devlish

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    Cant say im terribly shocked, the Islamists have been the only assistance the rebels have had from the start, plus of course it is an islamic country!

    This is exactly what has already been happening for two and a half years, so its no surprise their influence is growing. If the west wanted to change that, or prevent it from happening, it would have gone ahead with hitting Assad and given the secular/moderate rebels a real influence, but instead they have agreed Geneva and mid-2014.
     
  4. arknor

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    er how would the moderates/secular have a chance without assad?

    they are pathetic look at them and look who controls what the government does not.

    they can't even stand up to the terrorists and just hand supplies and buildings over
     
  5. Devlish

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    If only it were that simple. there seems to have been some kind of attack today? The simple fact is that I suspect Syria will prove just as much of a recruiting ground as the palestinian refugee camps are.

    Yeah, this isnt GD, so youre going to have to argue a point. What have the moderate and secular rebels who make up 50% of the FSA by the current report (and possibly more depending on the definition used by Janes) have to do with Assad? Youre also going to have to instance events where they cede ground to the extermists? They have very different sponsors and supply routes as well as organisaitonal and command structure. Part of the problem really.
     
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  6. Skunkworks

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  7. Devlish

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    Makes you wonder doesnt it, how much is planned. I mean from a humanitarian point of view worst possible outcome, war keeps going, innocents suffer.

    From a geopolitical point of view its a winner in the West. Russia gets Assad to wipe out his WMDs. Iran will need to keep pumping billions they just dont have in supporting Assad at a time theyre going to be pushed for a nuclear deal. Hezbollah will see its finest well trained fighters chewed up in street fighting. The place is a honeypot for extremists who would otherwise be signing up for the Taleban.
     
  8. zoomee

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    You gunna petition as hard as you have against the syrian regime, against the israeli's too now oh mr humanitarian?

    They've used Chemical weapons recently (2009) - still ongoing oppression against the palestinians. Outstanding humanitarian cause for you to fight for... after all - Israel is the LARGEST WMD holder in the middle east.....

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/16/isra-s16.html

     
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  9. gettothechopper

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    funny how many people on here crowing about how assad was winning and so why would they bother using chemical weapons ?

    seems the Syrian Vice President disagrees with you - he says neither side can win as the civil war is in deadlock http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20755279
     
  10. Amnesia

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    So he only tells the truth when you agree with what he says.............
     
  11. gettothechopper

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    That works both ways