Teetotalism

lixxus · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:32

DAnDan said:
Do you find it hard to believe people that they don't drink at all? Their nights out go exactly the same as yours do, just without the drinks, that's the only difference.

Maybe for religious beliefs ?

The Halk · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:32

DAnDan said:
+1. It's just as easy to have fun on a night out 100% sober as it is drunk, you just come home with more money left.

-1. Nights out that are seen as drinking nights out are no fun sober. They're no fun drunk either, that's why you get drunk!

See above for my explanation of why it's bad going to pubs/clubs sober.

DAnDan · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:32

lixxus said:
Maybe for religious beliefs ?

Or just because they don't feel like drinking

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Tute · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:33

lixxus said:
Social Common ground ?

Don't forget guys i'm not on about drinking 24/7 smacked off your head.

Big difference between drinking on social occasions.

These people are claiming to not drink full stop.

Some people drink but only maybe 3 times a month. I am not talking about losing your identity and your teeth every weekend with massive debts and hangovers.

Yes but Lixxus, why do you need alcohol to achieve these same goals? There are millions of people who have a damn good time with their mates without the use of alcohol at all.

I don't mind people getting merry - hell i'm sat on the sofa right now with three quite merry people in front of me and we're having a laugh and a chat at the same time!

loltim · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:33

Tute said:
Generally i'm quite light hearted around my friends anyway?

you only speak to your friends on a night out?

DAnDan · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:33

The Halk said:
-1. Nights out that are seen as drinking nights out are no fun sober. They're no fun drunk either, that's why you get drunk!

See above for my explanation of why it's bad going to pubs/clubs sober.

As said already, if you can't enjoy yourself without having to rely on being drunk, there's a problem there somewhere.

vincent1989 · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:34

lixxus said:
I am not talking about being drunk off your head.

I don't know if this is a **** example :

If you invite a vegetarian to barbecue which is associated with meat etc.

They are going to feel uncomfortable, considering everyone is enjoying them selfs.

So the vegetarian is going to have a **** time because everyone around them is eating meat.

it is a **** example, i'm veggie and i enjoy a good BBQ as much as anyone else, plenty of veggie alternatives to meat that can go on a barby.

Castiel said:
Whenever my vegetarian mate comes around for a BBQ we just shove a couple of vegeburgers on and he enjoys himself just like everyone else.

If you can't enjoy yourself without drinking then there is something not quite right.

exactly.

Tute said:
Generally i'm quite light hearted around my friends anyway?

indeed, if you need to alter your perceptions/inhibitions to be around some of your 'friends' then they probably aren't friends

Tute · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:34

Tim said:
you only speak to your friends on a night out?

No, I speak to my friends all the time - on MSN, through texting, at Uni, when we meet up for food, etc.

My point is that I generally don't go out with them and drink alcohol, yet I still feel I have a great time.

The Halk · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:35

DAnDan said:
As said already, if you can't enjoy yourself without having to rely on being drunk, there's a problem there somewhere.

And as I've said already, if you bothered to listen before you shouted down from your ivory tower, the problem isn't that I can't enjoy myself without being drunk. It's that I can't enjoy myself going to a pub/club without being drunk because it's not an enjoyable experience. It's only bearable drunk because you're retarding brain function.

That's why I no longer do it.

uvarvu · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:37

The Halk said:
-1. Nights out that are seen as drinking nights out are no fun sober. They're no fun drunk either, that's why you get drunk!

See above for my explanation of why it's bad going to pubs/clubs sober.

That's exactly why I don't go to clubs or bars. I'll only visit a pub for lunch and even then that's rare.

DAnDan · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:37

The Halk said:
And as I've said already, if you bothered to listen before you shouted down from your ivory tower, the problem isn't that I can't enjoy myself without being drunk. It's that I can't enjoy myself going to a pub/club without being drunk because it's not an enjoyable experience. It's only bearable drunk because you're retarding brain function.

That's why I no longer do it.

Ivory tower? Not sure what you're on about there sorry. Well I have to disagree about going to pubs/clubs sober, if you're with people you enjoy being with, and at a decent place then it can be perfectly fun sober or drunk. Don't start thinking I have anything against drinking, I don't, I just think it's ridiculous that people have to rely on it to have a good time.

[J.D.C] · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:38

The Halk said:
And as I've said already, if you bothered to listen before you shouted down from your ivory tower, the problem isn't that I can't enjoy myself without being drunk. It's that I can't enjoy myself going to a pub/club without being drunk because it's not an enjoyable experience. It's only bearable drunk because you're retarding brain function.

That's why I no longer do it.

I relate to this. Big time.

Although to be fair a couple of times I have went out, stayed sober and been able to enjoy myself due to the sheer mess of the people I was with by the end of the night.

That said, can always be the other extreme and they're not funny, just annoying and looking a smack in the mouth.

Saundie · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:41

Don't smoke, don't drink, don't ****, at least I can ****ing think;

Language is a bit too colourful for here I'm afraid!

Except that I don't follow it to be "straight edge". I am aware that this makes me very unusual, but that's fine with me.

Lightnix · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:46

Beer and socialisation? Hah! All I need is a calculator and a textbook. Worlds of fun.

Wossi · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:48

I can take alcohol or leave it. It doesn't bother me if I drink or don't.

Saying that, I've drank way too much this holiday.

Vonhelmet · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:48

I went off the drink for a year at uni. I just drank coke and laughed along with the drinkers.

Tombstone · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:50

I don't generally drink when I'm out, I simply don't have the need to or feel the need to. I have plenty of fun without needing liquor. My friends don't mind in the slightest and to use a cliche I am considered the life of the party, I'm a pretty outgoing person anyway. I would tend to lean towards what some others have said that if you are feeling the need to drink in order to fit in or have fun, then something somewhere isn't right.

The Halk · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:53

vonhelmet said:
I went off the drink for a year at uni. I just drank coke and laughed along with the drinkers.

That's the way to do it. There's really no noticable difference... until it gets to drunken mess time. As long as it doesn't go that far then you just don't need to drink at all. Or you could have a few drinks, it's personal preference.

The problem is when you go on a night out and the people you are with are resting their hopes for a good night entirely on alcohol.

loltim · 2 Jan 2011 at 21:58

Tute said:
No, I speak to my friends all the time - on MSN, through texting, at Uni, when we meet up for food, etc.

That's not what I meant. The way you worded it was though when you go out with your friends, they're the only people you speak to.

Redman · 2 Jan 2011 at 22:09

Nothing wrong with a good drink, and certainly no need to insinuate that people who like a drink need a drink.

Drinking's great, the most interesting people I've ever met have liked a good drink and a chat.

Drinking does not equal park bench alcoholic.