Telewest Blueyonder Pls Help

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:05

Hi,

ATM Setup is as follows:

Small white box with white wire to motorola cable modem, usb from this cable modem to pc, rj45 cable from this cable modem to the pc....

Now I want to include a DSL router to the setup as (ADSL router will not work apparently as its a cable line) so....

I will take the rj45 cable and the usb cable from the modem and plug them into my dsl router....What do I do with the white cable which goes from the small white box to the current cable modem?

I am very confused because there is no normal grey or white wire that plugs into the phone socket....

Can someone pls clarify???

Thanks in advance

tolien · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:06

You keep the cable modem you've got.

You don't use the USB connection though...

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:18

but i want to share the internet connection with another pc...therefore i need a dsl/cable router....but havent a clue of how i set it up.......

Pls please pls pls pls help????????

tolien · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:21

Er I didn't say you didn't. You still use the cable modem you have, and you still don't use the USB connection. Read the manual, and it's all easy from there...

Werewolf · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:24

just hook a router (not modem with router) up to the cable modem via the ethernet port on the modem, to the WAN port on the router.

Pretty much anything from here (wireless with wired - check port numbers) should do it, as would most of the ones here apart from the first and last.

I quite like the Linksys WRT54G and Linksys WRT54GS

(i'm using the GS for my NTL cable).

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:26

well if i had a manual I would...

i really need to set this network up and just dont understand how using the cable modem....

I now think:

cable modem ---rj45---router---rj45---pc

However I have a hub as well does this make a difference???

What is the usb for on the cable modem?

tolien · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:27

xirokx said:
cable modem ---rj45---router---rj45---pc

Yup.

However I have a hub as well does this make a difference???

Not really, as long as it's connected to the router not the modem.

What is the usb for on the cable modem?

Decoration. It's of zero use anyway.

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:30

are wan ports diff colours or something? how do i identify one?

werewolf so u are saying wan port from router --rj45----cable modem----rj45----pc???

if i want to incorporate a second pc presumably I need to attach it to the router using a rj45 cable??

Also do I need to bridge any connections etc??? Why is it necessary to bridge connections???

And will WEP be automatically setup or do I do this when configuring the router by going to 192.168.1.1???

pls pls help

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:32

my hub has 4 rj45's going into it....so to make it simply can i get away with attaching 1x rj45 cable from router to hub???

Do I bother setting up a connection in network connections? or does it all configure automatically?

Werewolf · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:32

The Wan port on any router should be identified - normally something like "WAN" written above it

You cannot connect a Hub/Switch straight up to an NTL or BY modem normally, as they only allow one IP address, and the first device connected to the switch/hub will get it (a router takes that IP address and shares the connection to additional machines).

The correct way to connect it would be
Modem via RJ45, WAN port on Router, router to PC/Hubs/Switch via RJ45 and/or wifi.

You will need to set WEP up on the router and each PC, but that should be covered in the routers menu (and is normally very easy).

tolien · 27 Apr 2006 at 21:35

xirokx said:
are wan ports diff colours or something? how do i identify one?

They'll be marked.

if i want to incorporate a second pc presumably I need to attach it to the router using a rj45 cable??

Or wireless, if the router does it.

Also do I need to bridge any connections etc???

No.

And will WEP be automatically setup

No, though WEP's useless - use WPA-PSK if all your kit supports it.

do I do this when configuring the router by going to 192.168.1.1???

If that's the router's IP, yes.

my hub has 4 rj45's going into it....so to make it simply can i get away with attaching 1x rj45 cable from router to hub???

Yup.

Do I bother setting up a connection in network connections? or does it all configure automatically?

There should be a network card in there already. Other than that it's automatic...

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 22:24

thanks for your help so far guys......right so to get this straight:

cable modem ----rj45----- router-----rj45-----pc

then

hub ---rj45-----router (will this take care of all the printer connections etc?)

and finally

second pc-----rj45-------router

Am I on the right page so far?

Configure WPA-PSK when I have connected to the router software page...

How do I set up WEP or WPA-PSK on each pc? is there a setting I need to go into? where will i find that?

tolien · 27 Apr 2006 at 22:40

xirokx said:
(will this take care of all the printer connections etc?)

The hub's transparent (as is the router's switch, and any wireless). Any file/printer sharing will be set up in Windows.

How do I set up WEP or WPA-PSK on each pc? is there a setting I need to go into? where will i find that?

Drivers should handle that. If you let Windows handle it, you should be asked for the key when you attempt to connect.
Another case of RTFM basically.

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 22:46

cable modem ----rj45----- router-----rj45-----pc

then

hub ---rj45-----router (will this take care of all the printer connections etc?)

and finally

second pc-----rj45-------router

Am I on the right page so far?

The hub's transparent (as is the router's switch, and any wireless). Any file/printer sharing will be set up in Windows.

Is that an instruction to do so? Or will it just happen automatically?

tolien · 27 Apr 2006 at 22:49

xirokx said:
Am I on the right page so far?

Er, yeah. You don't need to repeat yourself though...

Is that an instruction to do so? Or will it just happen automatically?

You'll need to share it. Right click, sharing etc...

xirokx · 27 Apr 2006 at 23:03

this is the first time i am setting up a network its for a friend and I just wanted to get it right so was double checking....at last thanks for all your help

so once everything is connected then just right click on the printer and presumably the hdds etc and tick the sharing option???

tolien · 27 Apr 2006 at 23:08

Yes...

www.practicallynetworked.com is your friend when it comes to file/printer sharing.

danlightbulb · 28 Apr 2006 at 09:30

Just to clarify cos its not really been explicity explained...

You don't need to setup WEP or WPA if your only using rj45 connections, its for if you used wireless connectivity.

However, if you do buy a wireless compatible router, you do need to disable the wireless option in the setup screens if you are not going to use it.

Duke · 28 Apr 2006 at 11:10

danlightbulb said:
You don't need to setup WEP or WPA if your only using rj45 connections, its for if you used wireless connectivity.

Yep.

However, if you do buy a wireless compatible router, you do need to disable the wireless option in the setup screens if you are not going to use it.

Yes as there isn't any point having it on.

xirokx · 28 Apr 2006 at 15:12

my connection is setup physically and software wise I am able to connect to the internet etc...However I am not quite sure of something

During the setup process I got prompted for the:

IP ADDRESS
IP SUBNET MASK
GATEWAY IP ADDRESS

PRIMARY DNS
SECONDARY DNS

I called Cable and they couldnt help

How do I find these out please?

pls pls pls help??

thanks in advance