*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***

opethdisciple said:
C) If people where telling me 'No dude, no one trains OHP on the same day as bench', then I could have drawn the conclusion that maybe that’s my issue. But it seems people are doing OHP on bench day. So with that in mind, I can just get on with it.
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Wrong. If your OHP work truly does suck due to limitations caused by the bench, then you have bad volume tolerance. In which case you would not be misguided if you considered switching it to a different day.

Remember, what's good for one person might be the most terrible thing ever for another.
 
BigPecsPeter said:
I'm hearing this more frequently of late, though on almost every occasion it's coming from people who are either, A: working out fasted first thing in the morning, or B: people who insist on not eating a substantial amount of carbohydrates PRE-training. Almost anybody I know who's taking in 80-100g carbs pre-workout is managing insane volume per body part.

Just sayin'.
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Interesting point :cool: my diet protocol changed at the same time as my training. I generally tend to meet the criteria in point B and believed that I'm simply not conditioned for high volume/low frequency workouts having not done them for so long.

Though I seemed to progressively cope better with my push/pull split after a few weeks of adjusting.

That said you might be right, who knows :p

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I always do any OHP work before any flat/incline benching/pressing. My shoulder health greatly improved since doing so. Along with proper RC mobilisations prior to any pressing.
 
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Oh Opeth, its best not to respond to bait posts sometimes :D

You could try moving ohp to a different day, I simply don't do shoulders and chest on the same day because I'll snap otherwise.
 
BennyC said:
Interesting point :cool: my diet protocol changed at the same time as my training. I generally tend to meet the criteria in point B and believed that I'm simply not conditioned for high volume/low frequency workouts having not done them for so long.

Though I seemed to progressively cope better with my push/pull split after a few weeks of adjusting.

That said you might be right, who knows :p
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I'd totally suggest at least giving it a go - about an hour pre-workout, load yourself with a mixture of carbs, some liquid, some complex, some simple, whatever (source may even be totally irrelevant) - over 70g worth - and go for a mad volume workout (bit of caffeine beforehand won't hurt either!). If you totally smash it, then there's your answer.

Delvis said:
Oh Opeth, its best not to respond to bait posts sometimes
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It really wasn't a bait. I just thought it was crazy that OD responded to an HST program saying he would "definitely give it a go".
 
BigPecsPeter said:
Wrong. If your OHP work truly does suck due to limitations caused by the bench, then you have bad volume tolerance. In which case you would not be misguided if you considered switching it to a different day.

Remember, what's good for one person might be the most terrible thing ever for another.
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If I swap my leg press with the OHP, wont I be hitting my triceps too much?

Routine A:

Bench Press
Leg Press
Dips
SLDL
Ab work

Routine B:

OHP
Pull Ups
Dumbell Bent over Rows
Barbell Curls
Calf Raises

I suppose I could give it a run this week and see how I feel.
 
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opethdisciple said:
Routine A:

Bench Press
Leg Press
Dips
SLDL
Ab work

Routine B:

OHP
Pull Ups
Dumbell Bent over Rows
Barbell Curls
Calf Raises

If I swap my leg press with the OHP, wont I be hitting my triceps too much?
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What? The triceps are a small muscle group. I'm assuming you are aware that many people work out 6, even 7 times a week.

What are you concerned about, exactly? That your triceps will fall off due to over-stimulation?
 
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What? The triceps are a small muscle group. I'm assuming you are aware that many people work out 6, even 7 times a week.

What are you concerned about, exactly? That your triceps will fall off due to over-stimulation?
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Of course I know people workout 6-7 times a week. But they usually do splits.

The only thing I'm trying to avoid is impeding my OHP performance by having tired triceps the day before. If its a non issue or not something I should be concerned about, then great.

I'll give it ashot anyway. See how it rolls.
 
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MoNkeE said:
Because then we wouldn't know who the idiots are.
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opethdisciple said:
Of course I know people workout 6-7 times a week. But they usually do splits.

The only thing I'm trying to avoid is impeding my OHP performance by having tired triceps the day before. If its a non issue or not something I should be concerned about, then great.

I'll give it ashot anyway. See how it rolls.
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If it does happen to affect it, just drop the weight to where it needs to be and work up from there, it's no biggy.
 
opethdisciple said:
Of course I know people workout 6-7 times a week. But they usually do splits.

The only thing I'm trying to avoid is impeding my OHP performance by having tired triceps the day before. If its a non issue or not something I should be concerned about, then great.

I'll give it ashot anyway. See how it rolls.
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Just go to the gym and lift brah.
 
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