*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***
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It doesn't no, however surely you can understand why some people would rather not use it? Dependent on their goals?
Body lifter? Sound like you work in a morgue mate.
Nope.
I can see you're in one of those moods. I'm out.
Not everyone wants to lift like a phaggot.
I will always encourage proper technique where advice is concerned. Sure, you can ignore if you want, that's fine. But bench pressing in the smith isn't good, why would you ever do this over barbell? The smith locks the bar path which forces you to lift in a way that isn't how you should bench. but hey, what do I know...
My abrupt reply was because of your bizarre post.
Honestly, smiths have a bad reputation here due to people injuring themselves with them by using them inappropriately. You don't have to train for a strength or size discipline to use them; I was hoping you'd know by now it's not so much the type of equipment you use, rather the programme of training.
Smith flat = bad
Smith incline = fine
People saying never to use a smiths machine for bench press is propagating an incorrect myth that they will screw your shoulders up in a matter of reps. Advice on what sort of work is safe to do on a smith is fine. But my entire point is, the question "is this for bodybuilding or powerlifting" is a bizarre question!
Honestly, smiths have a bad reputation here due to people injuring themselves with them by using them inappropriately. You don't have to train for a strength or size discipline to use them; I was hoping you'd know by now it's not so much the type of equipment you use, rather the programme of training.
Smith flat = bad
Smith incline = fine
People saying never to use a smiths machine for bench press is propagating an incorrect myth that they will screw your shoulders up in a matter of reps. Advice on what sort of work is safe to do on a smith is fine. But my entire point is, the question "is this for bodybuilding or powerlifting" is a bizarre question!
In seriousness, can you go more into depth as to why the smith is fine on incline and bad on flat? And how to use it safely on incle?
And why you should use it over using a barbell, is there any advantages? Or is it purely a saftey matter that you would ever use it over a BB?
Seriously...
Monkee.
If someone is going to basically say I don't know what I'm talking about, I'd expect at least a proper explanation. I've explained why I wouldn't recommend smith, and I stick by it. I'd like to think I have a little success and understanding of bench press to be able to give advice.
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Not relevant. That it isn't how you should bench is pretty much just stating the bleedin' obvious. If the target is developing a good bench, then of course the Smith machine isn't going to be any use whatsoever.
If, on the other hand, the target is muscular hypertrophy, then the Smith machine can be used to great effect. Moreover, if using the Smith allows somebody to progressively increase the tension overload over time while they are only making sluggish progress on the bench, then they'll be getting more growth results by virtue of their Smith work.
[Of course, before I get flamed, I agree that said person would do well to make efforts to improve their bench; but the whole "machines and Smith are rubbish" stuff is a whole load of internet macho bro-bollacks that's just contrary to what you find seasoned bodybuilders actually doing]
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I'm gonna listen to Dr. Pecs.
Srs though lie you spent the first 9 years of your lifting career benching 5x a week, of course you have success benching.
Srs though lie you spent the first 9 years of your lifting career benching 5x a week, of course you have success benching.
We have a winner
It's no secret I used to do a lot of benching when I first started out, but it was only ever once a week. I could go into my entire training history and explain to why I've not actually been properly lifting until the past 3 or so years, but I can't be arsed.
It's good to see how people really think.
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Hmm well well well.
Seems winds of change are starting to blow through this part of the forum.
Seems winds of change are starting to blow through this part of the forum.
