Soldato
I have had a number of AMD/ATI cards and driver wise all have been fine except for some powerplay issues with the 5870. I think must problems are down to user error.
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The AMD ATI Radeon Experience
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No bugs with Nvidia drivers you say......
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showforum=213
Evidence suggests otherwise, and I can't say my 460s in SLI have been faultless anyway, far from it in fact.
So uhm, yeah good luck with that dude.
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showforum=213
Evidence suggests otherwise, and I can't say my 460s in SLI have been faultless anyway, far from it in fact.
So uhm, yeah good luck with that dude.
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What are some examples of human error and PEBKAC when it comes to video card drivers?
I'm struggling to find any to be honest.
I'm struggling to find any to be honest.
That spreadsheet is a great troubleshooting tool, with such quality troubleshooting advice as 'moan moan' and 'winge winge' I fail to see how the issue isn't fixed yet!
I'm also intrigued as to how you installed 10.12 at 9:32 this morning, posted this at 9:38, despite your sheet saying it freezes windows. And that you are not planning on rolling back to 10.9 to fix your freezing windows until 9:32 tomorrow morning, especially as the 10.12s are flagged 'DO NOT USE'!
I'm struggling to see the point of this thread, are you asking for help or just ranting to let off steam when all that typing and effort could have been spent googling and trying to actually troubleshoot and fix the errors?
Apart from constantly installing/uninstalling/rolling back what have you actually tried?
I'm also intrigued as to how you installed 10.12 at 9:32 this morning, posted this at 9:38, despite your sheet saying it freezes windows. And that you are not planning on rolling back to 10.9 to fix your freezing windows until 9:32 tomorrow morning, especially as the 10.12s are flagged 'DO NOT USE'!
I'm struggling to see the point of this thread, are you asking for help or just ranting to let off steam when all that typing and effort could have been spent googling and trying to actually troubleshoot and fix the errors?
Apart from constantly installing/uninstalling/rolling back what have you actually tried?
Soldato
His system was BSODing with an NV card, now he has an AMD - it's playing up again so it must be the sucky AMD/ATI drivers
Problem component is the squishy bit between desk and chair
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Originally Posted by straxusii
You couldnt make this stuff up if you tried
LOL So you get loads of problems with Radeon cards and Nvidia's give you a blue screen, so its the catalyst drivers fault. Atleast your system actually lets you getting the radeon drivers installed and working lol!Only problems ive ever had is with flash problems and even then just with a 5850. No problems with a 5670, 4890 or any other problems with my 5850!
Soldato
Back when I had my 7950GX2 I had driver issues, as well. No overclocks back then either.
Even had drivers refuse to install for that card. Additionally a card of such price back then, as soon as the new Nvidia 8000 was out, there was no update for the 7950GX2 for about 6 months!
That was my last Nvidia card. Although I was tempted to get a 470 this time around.
Even had drivers refuse to install for that card. Additionally a card of such price back then, as soon as the new Nvidia 8000 was out, there was no update for the 7950GX2 for about 6 months!
That was my last Nvidia card. Although I was tempted to get a 470 this time around.
Soldato
FireShadow in inaccurate claim shocker...
Owned my 4870 since release and every driver I have used has worked.
Obviously this isn't the case for everyone, I have just been lucky.
I never uninstall drivers, just update over the top... Why use driver cleaner tools?
When you have an Nvidia driver crash and blame the ATI chipset, I think it's time to admit that you have a major system issue.
Reinstall Windows and admit that you "were doing it wrong".
It's quite apparent as with most PC problems people don't use their head
Can You begin to imagine how many hardware/software combinations people throw drivers at ?
Problems will always exist for some, but the wise always leave themselfs a backup contingency and maybe fee less of a need to beta test in the first place
Can You begin to imagine how many hardware/software combinations people throw drivers at ?
Problems will always exist for some, but the wise always leave themselfs a backup contingency and maybe fee less of a need to beta test in the first place
Man of Honour
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Never had a problem here... which doesn't help you much
I just use the ATI uninstaller, restart and install new.
Same here. The main problem on these forums is that people overclock their cards and use beta drivers. Stick to official driver release and don't fiddle and you will have few to no problems. To be fair, I have never had any problems with Nvidia drivers - just don't get me started on the 7900GTX though
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The purpose of the thread was to see if others had the same experience and whether I was missing a trick.
I never overclock as I want my machine to work reliably and don't need the hassle.
The comment that you can "uninstall catalyst and then reinstall" is totally wrong.
It is common knowledge Catalyst uninstaller does not uninstall correctly, and the files it leaves behind cause issues. That is why Driver Sweeper exists ...
It is impossible to rollback from Catalyst 10.12 to 10.9 by using the Catalyst uninstaller.
The end result will be a mess -with CCC not working correctly.
There was also one (or two) Catalyst versions that BSOD on uninstall (when they first brought out the Installer Manager)
For me Catalyst 10.12 results in windows screen freezing - no BSOD - I believe it is VPU recover stuck in a loop - as if I turn off VPU recover I will get BSOD.
Catalyst 10.10 has a vsync problem - in full screen vsync is always disabled, regardless of any changes made to gpu or game settings.
Makes it kind of hard to test software in vsync mode.
Anyway I have settled on the bugs I get with 10.9 a the least disruptive.
As for the NV card problem - that is a mystery - the card worked perfectly until I replaced my motherboard. Then with a fresh install of windows it BSODs on the nv driver.
Common sense would suggest that AMD chipset mobo + NV GPU are not happy.
As previously I had problems with NV chipset + AMD GPU ...
Anyway in future it is Intel chipsets + NVidia gpus and then maybe I can get some work done.
I never overclock as I want my machine to work reliably and don't need the hassle.
The comment that you can "uninstall catalyst and then reinstall" is totally wrong.
It is common knowledge Catalyst uninstaller does not uninstall correctly, and the files it leaves behind cause issues. That is why Driver Sweeper exists ...
It is impossible to rollback from Catalyst 10.12 to 10.9 by using the Catalyst uninstaller.
The end result will be a mess -with CCC not working correctly.
There was also one (or two) Catalyst versions that BSOD on uninstall (when they first brought out the Installer Manager)
For me Catalyst 10.12 results in windows screen freezing - no BSOD - I believe it is VPU recover stuck in a loop - as if I turn off VPU recover I will get BSOD.
Catalyst 10.10 has a vsync problem - in full screen vsync is always disabled, regardless of any changes made to gpu or game settings.
Makes it kind of hard to test software in vsync mode.
Anyway I have settled on the bugs I get with 10.9 a the least disruptive.
As for the NV card problem - that is a mystery - the card worked perfectly until I replaced my motherboard. Then with a fresh install of windows it BSODs on the nv driver.
Common sense would suggest that AMD chipset mobo + NV GPU are not happy.
As previously I had problems with NV chipset + AMD GPU ...
Anyway in future it is Intel chipsets + NVidia gpus and then maybe I can get some work done.
Man of Honour
Never had any problems with any ATI drivers here, and that's on XP Pro and Vista 64. My card and cpu are also both heavily overclocked and i have never had a crash or BSOD.
You gotta be kidding, right? It is common knowledge that Driver Sweeper is a cause of most problems. If you didn't know that already, Catalyst Control Centre has to be installed over the top of an existing driver. Otherwise it won't be able to detect the hardware properly.
What software do you mean?
Soldato
Nvidia cards had issues with some Hard drives at one point, Creative X-Fi sound cards had issues with 4gbs of memory.
It is not always straightforward.
I even had a problem with running 'default' settings with a motherboard and an ATI card where I couldn't run 100Mhz on the PCI-E bus. I had to run anything but 100. The issue was that originally if I went with 100% fan speed the problem went away.. which gave a misleading diagnosis. I wouldn't put it down to an AMD M/B + Nvidia GFX immediately It may be something simple like a bios setting, or a motherboard/gfx BIOS update you need.
It is not always straightforward.
I even had a problem with running 'default' settings with a motherboard and an ATI card where I couldn't run 100Mhz on the PCI-E bus. I had to run anything but 100. The issue was that originally if I went with 100% fan speed the problem went away.. which gave a misleading diagnosis. I wouldn't put it down to an AMD M/B + Nvidia GFX immediately
It may be something simple like a bios setting, or a motherboard/gfx BIOS update you need.
Caporegime
Utter dross.
Same here. The main problem on these forums is that people overclock their cards and use beta drivers. Stick to official driver release and don't fiddle and you will have few to no problems. To be fair, I have never had any problems with Nvidia drivers - just don't get me started on the 7900GTX though
better rule out using Eyefinity or Crossfire too then