Why not 5070 after all it beats the 4090 and supports all the features you say are worth $200 premium, all this defence yet you can't buy one priced out of the 5070ti and left with the 5070 lol
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You're comparing apples with oranges here.
I have a gaming laptop that I updated the drivers of the 3060 last easter and I had to roll back because it caused endless problems. It still hasn't got updated because when I tried again when another driver set came out, I had to roll back again.
So going by your logic, all nvidia drivers even for other hardware is useless
My money would be on that poster being one of those odd ones that really really wants amd to release a good product at a good price, just so it forces nv’s hand and reduces the price of their equivalent gpus so they can buy one of those.
Why would someone even be considering a gpu with drivers they think are garbage. If I was stuck in a near 15 year old mind set regarding amd’s drivers I’d not in a million years entertain one.
You're responding to a guy who has form for peddling nonsense in youtube vids back in the day. Then he was found out and the linked videos magically vanished.
I need to spend more time in the gpu section - sounds like it’s a better source of entertainment than SC.
Can remember a user with raven in the name years back getting banned in gfx sub for a while for trolling AMD users, same user?
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@Gibbo there will be ample stock and they will sell at MSRP.
Having said that ample stock is one thing but demand is quite another, one might have 5000 cards available on day one and that might be the most stock you have ever had for a GPU's launch but if they sell out in 3 hours well then perhaps we need a new measure of what ample is
It is just about what that MSRP is. that also depends on performance, is it sub 5070 ti or is it sub 5080 because those are very different price brakets.
That's not what Gibbo said. He said if the MSRP is viable, then they'll sell at that price.
For example, the MSRP is £600. OCUK: "That's not viable. We'll sell at £800".
Or, the MSRP is £800. OCUK: "That's viable. We'll sell at MSRP".
I need to spend more time in the gpu section - sounds like it’s a better source of entertainment than SC.
Oh this is way back when tessellation was a big thing, nvidia had some demo showing a bird with tessellation on and off and raven (or evilcrow1001 or some such thing as was his YouTube name) took some of the vid and claimed tessellation off was amd with tessellation on. Then started rambling about how the cards were cheap crap in the comments and how people were all bitter and twisted about it because they bought amd. I linked the video in here and literally 10 mins later it was hidden on youtube. Quite the "coincidence".
Think so, quite a few were getting time outs on and off back then.
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Must be I am trying to install AMD drivers for the past few versions, facing black screen issues each time and having to use DDU to get it back up and running.
All corporations are. They're all the same - that's how capitalism works, they exist to make monies in any legal way possible.
This is what I’ve been saying that AMD have always matched or beaten the performance of Nvidia’s previous 80 class for $500 or less so charging $600 or more when they badly need marketshare is a crazy strategy.
Nvidia with 90% market share and booming AI sales can afford to lose sales but AMD needs every sale they can get right now.
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Complaining about experiencing AMDs issues and slow to none existent support first hand-but forgetting about AMD reps interaction in here some months back giving raven one to one support in the AMD driver thread until raven got salty with said AMD rep and first hand help stopped...
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AMD Max Profit>Market share, nothings going to change.
There should be a poll pre re-lease asking what people think AMD are going to do-and point Frank to the thread.....
IMO AMD won't change, Max Profit then drop pricing when sales drop off, like they always do.
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I'm sure they have much clever people then us , maybe it's better for them to tick along and put resources into other stuff that brings in more money
Who cares what the 5070ti sells for, Nvidia don’t need to sell any and would be quite happy using the extra capacity for AI anyway.
AMD needs to forget what Nvidia is doing and focus on their own predicament, they seem to think that because Nvidia can get away with selling some overpriced cards that they can too but declining marketshare year after year shows that isn’t the case.
I couldn't care less for either, if I can't get it at £600 I won't bother , and I'm not buying 5070ti even at MSRP , but as time passes more chance I'll buy the AMD card once price drops
Under-appreciated fact. But the big issue with the 7800XT was how late it was to the market.
Got to be. Either that or a Russia troll farm bot
Maybe on their design and build teams but their marketing dept is a bunch of amateurs.
If the 9070 XT need's a display output that can do 240Hz 4K we would be having a very different conversation, as it is it can do 230Hz at 4K 8Bit or 185Hz in 10Bit HDR without DSC.... just set your frame rate limit to 230Hz on your 240Hz monitor, if you're running Adaptive Sync you should really be doing that anyway.... this really is much of a nothing.
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